Referees' Performances | 2025/26

Nope. Read it 7 times now and still makes no sense too me. Might go back to bed.....

Ok I’ll try again! The offside line isn’t directly down to the ground from the armpit. It’s from the part of the arm that’s directly in line with the bottom of the armpit when in a standing position and then down, so about 4 or 5 inches down from the shoulder. When someone is side on like Dias is and also has his arm up, it can make a fair difference, particularly with the margins that are dealt with nowadays.

I’ve not seen it drawn down in the correct position yet.
 
What concerns me more than us getting shafted is that there’s now cast iron proof that they are fucking about with semi automated offsides and making shit up. As I said in the other thread, if it wasn’t being manipulated then why did it take 4 minutes.
Semi automated has a lot of fans but no transparent data out there as to its margin of error. The fact that they have Dias jumping in their images is ludicrous. It clearly doesn’t work
 
The only one I feel strongly about is the Phil one, thought that was a quite obvious reckless challenge.

The handball is a subjective one, think VAR would have gone with whatever had been decided on the pitch.

Their second goal, I didn’t think it was enough for a foul and Donnarumma needed to be stronger. The offside, I haven’t seen enough to be convinced either way if it was offside or not but it’s that close that personally I’ve never been that bothered with those where I don’t think there’s a clear advantage from it. I get that in the world we’re in now though, VAR has changed how people judge offsides and as a consequence, it does have to show that it got it right and they haven’t done that yet either.
I agree about your post but I'll ask a question (please)
How could Donna be stronger ? If you are setting yourself to possibly jump for a ball coming towards you, a shove in the back knocks you forward, so away from the ball and affects your balance and reaction. If Donna stood firm awaiting a possible push, how can he then jump ?
 
I was in a Newcastle players box yesterday. I was the only City fan in with 9 Geordies. 9 of us thought it was a definite penalty. 7 of us thought it was offside for the winner.
The Schar tackle happens any other place on the pitch you're looking at a possible red card imo
It is standard these days to award direct free kicks anywhere on the pitch where the ref feels he needs to slow the game to a stop when the same incident wouldn't get a one per cent sniff were it to happen in the area. Refereeing is an art - how to manipulate the LotG and still provide, for the gullible, a cogent explanation as to why black is white and white is black, offside one week, onside the next, handball inside the area no, outside the area yes, and sky blue can just fuck off!
 
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I agree about your post but I'll ask a question (please)
How could Donna be stronger ? If you are setting yourself to possibly jump for a ball coming towards you, a shove in the back knocks you forward, so away from the ball and affects your balance and reaction. If Donna stood firm awaiting a possible push, how can he then jump ?

I thought he oversold the push and was looking for the foul as he realised he was in the wrong position and wasn’t going to get to the ball. If you watch it back, he’s trying to push other players out the way too and isn’t able to get the space because he’s moved himself into the congested area. Had he left the players to it, he could have had an easy catch.

I get it, he’ll have been given a foul for that on the continent. It’s just not enough for me.
 
If PiGMOL don't come out and say they at least got the "tackle" on Foden wrong then they've just given license for leg breaking challenges to occur which won't be penalised as long as the shot was taken.

It's also comparable to if a player is rounding the keeper but takes a heavy touch because of an impending challenge which heads out of play. Is it still a penalty if the keeper still wipes the player out afterwards?
 
Ok I’ll try again! The offside line isn’t directly down to the ground from the armpit. It’s from the part of the arm that’s directly in line with the bottom of the armpit when in a standing position and then down, so about 4 or 5 inches down from the shoulder. When someone is side on like Dias is and also has his arm up, it can make a fair difference, particularly with the margins that are dealt with nowadays.

I’ve not seen it drawn down in the correct position yet.
It's a good effort. ;)
 
I was in a Newcastle players box yesterday. I was the only City fan in with 9 Geordies. 9 of us thought it was a definite penalty. 7 of us thought it was offside for the winner.
The Schar tackle happens any other place on the pitch you're looking at a possible red card imo
If it happened anywhere else on the pitch the ref would of stopped play immediately and given us a free kick, whilst dealing with Schar
 
The bit that is still not being legitimised is IF it wasn’t corrupt/manipulated then why did it take 4 minutes? The only time there is a delay is when multiple bodies and body parts in the way, there was ZERO other than Dias and BrunoG’s foot so it should have been instantaneous. It wasn’t, because it was being fudged.
 
The justification they will use that he got his shot off means that you are punished for trying to make a genuine attempt at scoring. It gives defenders free license to make leg breaking challenges after the ball has gone in the box and we all know that isn’t the rule anywhere else on the pitch. Disgrace and they know exactly what they’re doing.
 
Ok I’ll try again! The offside line isn’t directly down to the ground from the armpit. It’s from the part of the arm that’s directly in line with the bottom of the armpit when in a standing position and then down, so about 4 or 5 inches down from the shoulder. When someone is side on like Dias is and also has his arm up, it can make a fair difference, particularly with the margins that are dealt with nowadays.

I’ve not seen it drawn down in the correct position yet.
.....and you never will!
 
If PiGMOL don't come out and say they at least got the "tackle" on Foden wrong then they've just given license for leg breaking challenges to occur which won't be penalised as long as the shot was taken.

It's also comparable to if a player is rounding the keeper but takes a heavy touch because of an impending challenge which heads out of play. Is it still a penalty if the keeper still wipes the player out afterwards?
Wait til we play Leeds next week and we get penalised for a similar incident in the penalty area .

I have no idea why the ref wasn't sent to the monitor for a potential red card / penalty . It stinks .
 
The bit that is still not being legitimised is IF it wasn’t corrupt/manipulated then why did it take 4 minutes? The only time there is a delay is when multiple bodies and body parts in the way, there was ZERO other than Dias and BrunoG’s foot so it should have been instantaneous. It wasn’t, because it was being fudged.
Exactly. It took four minutes to work out how to accidently on purpose prepare an image with the line drawn down from the wrong part of Dias' arm to vindicate an offside that never was. It was obvious they were trying to engineer a preferred outcome after about 20 seconds and I'd have bet a pound to a piece of shit at that point that they'd allow the goal to stand......which of course they duly did.
And after all that, they still didn't even look at the porno 'tached German Peter Crouch using Nunes' as a de facto vaulting horse in the build up. Bent as a nine bobber....
 
After having a sleep to calm down a bit, I think I have decided that the referee allowing the persistent, cynical, dangerous fouling by Newcastle players bothers me more than the offside goal.

It was offside—and I think Donnarumma was fouled in the build up—but at least that decision was genuinely tight. The outcome gives the impression of manipulation to get a desired result, but that was only possible because it was so close to begin with.

But the blatant “cycle of kicking” on Cherki, the repeated holds and late challenges to prevent promising counters, and the cynical fouling (barges, stamps, elbows, and the studs up challenge on Phil in the box) weren’t “close” decisions. They were obvious, conscious choices not to adequately protect or players and punish players for violating the laws of the game.

And the ref didn’t even call all the actual fouls. He gave “advantages” several times that were anything but, and let a few fairly obvious fouls go for reasons that are only known to him. I think they really got one yellow for likely ~18 fouls, whilst we got a yellow for every 2.66 fouls. That screams intention.

Seeing Cherki kicked out of the game (and Haaland constantly bear hugged with little consequence) was infuriating and I am fairly sure it was the main topic of Pep’s visit to the official’s dressing room.

VAR getting the tight offside call wrong is one thing, but watching the officials (including VAR) ignore (arguably even encourage) Newcastle’s anti-football tactics over and over and over again was absolutely infuriating. I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about it right now (maybe because I was often on the end of it during my more humble playing days).

Oh, and I think the pull back of Doku in full stride as he was running into the box was as much a penalty as Schar’s ankle breaker on Phil.

One bad decision in a game can happen. Two bad decisions can be mistakes. Three bad decisions can be incompetence.

But four or more bad decisions, in the era of VAR?

That stretches credibility.
 

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