Eccles Blue
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I asked the question a few pages back and still no answer. Was one of our fans ‘beaten senseless’ or not?
I asked the question a few pages back and still no answer. Was one of our fans ‘beaten senseless’ or not?
I get your point mate. I think we need to hear what improvements in security / ticket restrictions are being put in place for the Galatassary game.I understand why you say that mate but I'm sat here thinking if I go I'll have my 14 year old lad with me and if anything does kick off (fairly high chance all around the ground by the sounds of it) and I defend him and myself, then I'm probably just getting banned for it anyway so frankly why bother? The club wants shot of the traditional fans and in this case I'll probably oblige them.
We've seen incredible things none of us could have imagined, but my we've paid a price for it.
Yes, the fans were very quick to drop the vianogo element of the protest once more season tickets and price freezes were announced, big mistake letting that one go.He talks like an international businessman and quasi-politician because, well, he is a very successful international businessman and a very powerful quasi-politician. He isn't a fan and thank God he isn't because, judging from the average comment on this forum, fans should be nowhere near running a football club. Not a criticism at all, it's just what you would expect.
Where there are reasonable grounds for questioning is the extent to which Mansour and Khaldoon approve of the detailed policies Soriano is implementing in respect of the whole gamut of fan engagement.
Personally, I think they approve of Soriano's "Disneyland" vision which, in my view, is a mistake - football in England isn't an entertainment, it's a passion both for local and opposition fans on a life-long basis and for non-fans as a match by match experience. Sanitise the passion out of the game and it will be dead within a generation. This isn't America. It's almost dead to me now already.
But I am not sure they have Soriano under control on the details. Yes, I am sure he meets the high level targets the Board sets and I am sure he presents data showing how happy the fans are, but it's not their job to micro-manage Soriano. It's their job to correct his mistakes when they find out about them (like they did at the end of last season) or remove him if he keeps making them. I may change this assessment over time if Soriano keeps making things worse, but for now my one criticism is that, after the protests last season, Mansour and Khaldoon should he keeping Soriano on a short "fan engagement" leash - maybe they are but it's difficult to see any difference just yet.
I have said it before and I will say it again, the pressure applied at the end of last season should have been maintained despite the apparent price-reduction success. It's the only way to let Mansour and Khaldoon know there are still problems. They aren't going to hear it from Soriano. I worked for Euro-cunts for most of my life, I know how they work. And if the fans can't be motivated to let their feelings be heard, it is only going to get worse.
I have already said I was wrong to criticise Danny Wilson. I know he has helped a lot of Blues.I hope the City fan is recovering well.
However could I ask a quick question please. Originally it was stated a fan was ‘beaten senseless’ and, as I read it, another had his leg broken but we have only heard about the broken leg. So was a fan beaten senseless or is this the exaggeration the club has posted about therefore not exactly lying as implied/stated but trying in a crack handed manner to explain?
I have read all the posts in this thread I think (amazing what you do to relieve the boredom of lying in a hospital bed!) and couldn’t make out whether two people had two different injuries, or one person had a broken leg after being beaten senseless. Sorry.
Also, without trying to be a sycophant I can only say what happened to me when I was at an away match in London and assaulted by a City fan and ignored by the London stewards and police but when I reported it to City on my return they contacted me within the hour and were extremely supportive as was @Ric on here.
I guess we can only speak as we find. The person who contacted me within the hour was Danny Wilson. Take that as you like but this is why I stick up for him. JMHO
Hopefully I do not offend anyone but I have to be honest. :-) :-)
EDIT: If it was two people I hope the second one gets well soon as well. :-)
I saw that you had said that @Tim of the Oak but that wasn’t the question I asked.I have already said I was wrong to criticise Danny Wilson. I know he has helped a lot of Blues.
The lad with the broken leg has written to Danny to thank the stewards for helping him, including getting the ambulance.
The statement from the club was unhelpful too.
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Man City fan suffers broken leg after 'brutal attack' at Leeds game
A Manchester City supporter was attacked inside the Etihad on Saturday, although reports that Leeds fans were responsible have not been verifiedwww.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
Careful mate - you’ll have the usual suspects jumping all over you claiming you’re a rival fan because you dared criticise the club.Knowing City, they’ll probably revoke his season ticket for not attending enough games due to his broken leg.
I’ve not a clue what happened either Eccles. Apparently it’s all over social media but I don’t have that so I am as in the dark as you are. I hope you are keeping well?I asked the question a few pages back and still no answer. Was one of our fans ‘beaten senseless’ or not?
They can still police it like they did with the Lech Poznan game. Loads of fans with Polish surnames living in the UK bought tickets in the City end and then had them cancelled and re-allocated to a second away end located in - from memory - the 3rd tier of the East StandThere are thousands of Galatasaray fans who live in England,
Yep danny wilson is a proper fucking saint, the club has never been better run, legacy fans are treated so well, and thank fuck he’s made it so difficult for away fans to get tickets in the home end.I have already said I was wrong to criticise Danny Wilson. I know he has helped a lot of Blues.
The lad with the broken leg has written to Danny to thank the stewards for helping him, including getting the ambulance.
The statement from the club was unhelpful too.
Easy now. Sir Kevin isn't going to do anything crazy while the gravy train is still travelling at full speed.Well highlighted. I wouldn’t worry about either of them two. They are irrelevant.
On a more serious and important note.
City Matters have now joined the fight. I’d go as far as saying the OSC is onboard as well. That’s all the fans groups V the Directors.(Superba in Proelio & CC1)
Poor form indeed, but standard disgusting procedure if I understand comments from @Dodge correctly.Can someone from the fans representative group not intervene-after all what happened to innocent until guilty ? Poor form from City -
Yeah 2 lads I know were thrown out of the ground at candlefield last season, bailed by misery side police, season tickets immediately suspended by the club and banned for away games - this was for several months despite no further action from miseryside cops, 3 months without being able to go to games and no compensation from the club for the games their seats were emptyPoor form indeed, but standard disgusting procedure if I understand comments from @Dodge correctly.
This flies in the face of innocent until proven guilty, but is it standard procedure at all PL and EFL clubs? - Not including the dippers in this as their fans are always innocent.Yeah 2 lads I know were thrown out of the ground at candlefield last season, bailed by misery side police, season tickets immediately suspended by the club and banned for away games - this was for several months despite no further action from miseryside cops, 3 months without being able to go to games and no compensation from the club for the games their seats were empty