Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

I hope you are as sarcastic as you sound-;)
Exactly!
Villa rode their luck and their supporters were enjoying a significant victory

We scored early against a team in the relegation places and quite understandably (5 injuries and 2 at the African Nations Cup) were trying to do just enough in a game that barring all manner of misfortune,.we were always going to win.

Straightforward but it does nothing for the atmosphere
 
Where would you get 7000 singers from ? 3000 is enough to start...
Dictating to the club is a no go...
theres 33000 people singing at Wembley for cup finals and the whole ground sings at times United Liverpool etc

There’s 7k home fans that stand and sing at home games now. They are just split between 011 to 021 and then all of 314-315 and the back few rows of 316-318.

You’re happy for the club suits to dictate to the fans though ? People that are overseeing empty seats and away fans across our ground everywhere. Same club causing anxiety in fans as they don’t know if there will be away fans around them when they get there.

We can’t depend on the club for ambition on atmosphere, it’s clear they have an agenda on revenue which supersedes everything else.


We need to do what we can control, which is SS and kippax full of singers and lively people.
 
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Just watching the darts… any table that isn’t singing is met with the rest of the arena chanting ‘boring boring table’ at them.

If, at Chelsea at home, SSL0 aren’t singing from the off, I’ll try and get ‘boring boring South Stand’ going round the ground.

Inadvertently you may have stumbled upon the answer.
There are loads of chants to throw at them.
 
The thing is about this thread, we are likely all singers and we are talking amongst ourselves in here about non-singers who probably never venture into this thread.

We probably need to think of other avenues to put it out there that we need more people singing in the stadium.

Maybe 1894 could put out a YouTube video or an X post at the end of the year/in the new year saying how disappointing the atmosphere was in 2025 and that our fanbase needs to be more proactive in getting the amtopshere going? Maybe first target the Singing Section to act like their name, then suggest the rest of the ground also joins in more with the Singing Section?

Whatever any of us are doing or not doing at the moment clearly isn’t working. As much as any of us in this thread likely try and sing or at least be positively vocal in getting behind the team (atmosphere isn’t just singing, afterall… loud and forceful ‘come on’s, ‘go on’s, cheers and jeers are all part of an atmosphere), it isn’t stirring the Singing Section to consistently sing and there aren’t enough songs for the rest of the ground to join in with.
The singing section is diluted we don’t have control over people there half the people went to tier 3 in the place when club undercut the prices.

We’ve then seen people drop
Away and not return over the years and of course many years without new season tickets means a gradual change of supporter there - not necessarily persistent singers.

No ring fencing from football
Tourism in this area. Many factors which all have an impact over time.
 
I'm in 015. IMHO SSL wasn't too bad yesterday although I don't really get the obsession with the Amorim song. Didn't hear a peep from "Kippax Corner" though. Just saying...

It wasn’t an obsession. It doesn’t get sung as much as other songs do on SSL1.

It got going and different people decided to keep it going.

As it slowly died, some singers kept on singing it, and were clapping along to it. Then it picked up again when City were on top of West Ham.

TBH, and for some reason, there were plenty of United songs yesterday, even though the derby isn’t until next month. I think it was because City are starting to pull away from United, and the points gap is getting bigger, and so is “mind the gap”. :-)

When you have so many different fans starting so many different songs, everyone just goes with what the singer starts, which could be the same chants minutes apart.

When fans started leaving early the “empty seats at home” chant started.
 
@pride in battle and @M18CTID, do yourselves a favour and take your "discussion" to DMs. If it continues on here, you'll be taking a break from this thread.
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theres 33000 people singing at Wembley for cup finals and the whole ground sings at times United Liverpool etc

There’s 7k home fans that stand and sing at home games now. They are just split between 011 to 021 and then all of 314-315 and the back few rows of 316-318.

You’re happy for the club suits to dictate to the fans though ? People that are overseeing empty seats and away fans across our ground everywhere. Same club causing anxiety in fans as they don’t know if there will be away fans around them when they get there.

We can’t depend on the club for ambition on atmosphere, it’s clear they have an agenda on revenue which supersedes everything else.


We need to do what we can control, which is SS and kippax full of singers and lively people.
So YOU take action and go into the North Stand, at the moment its shit in the south because it isn't our HOME end, get in the North and make it OUR end, it isn't difficult is it...oh wait...
 
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So YOU take action and go into the North Stand, at the moment its shit in the south because it isn't our HOME end, get in the North and make it OUR end, it isn't difficult is it...oh wait...

How are 1894 going to make the 8000 capacity 2nd tier a home end?

There are 5000 GA seats, sitting, not standing.
There are GA+ seats. I can’t remember how many. 700?
There is no dedicated singing section/block we know about yet.
There is no youth section/block we know about yet.
There are no prices for tickets and season tickets we know about yet.
Bar the 3000 safe standing seats that are spread along the back and down both sides of NSL2, splitting up the safe standing fans, we don’t know the prices for those seats, the amount of FG season tickets for those seats, and match day ticket prices for those seats.
Bar the limited information the club has released so far about NSL2, we know nothing else.
The club has not pushed NSL2 as a proper and atmospheric home end. Only the fans have done that by hoping it would be that
There is a new 401 room hotel which is attached to the NS which will accommodate fans who will be watching the match from NSL2. Amongst those fans there will be singers, fans who won’t sing, fans of other clubs who have come for the match and a weekend in Manchester, and away fans who will use the hotel as a way to get a match ticket/s via hotel packages.
Taking all of the above into consideration and much more, please tell us how 1894 can make NSL2 our home end without the club engaging with the fans, working with the fans, and making it happen?

You constantly question 1894’s motives, but you never question the clubs motives. If the club wanted to make NSL2 an atmospheric home which all the fans wanted, the club could have started that process months ago, engaged and worked with the fans, and done it by now, with NSL2’s opening next year. Is there still time, yes there is!

Why don’t you tell us why you think the new NSL2 will be a proper and atmospheric home end with what you know already via this thread, other threads, and the information released by the club so far?
 
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So YOU take action and go into the North Stand, at the moment its shit in the south because it isn't our HOME end, get in the North and make it OUR end, it isn't difficult is it...oh wait...
Oh wait we have a membership that we regularly survey but no let’s ignore that democracy and mandate and go off one person on Bluemoon who speaks for himself.
 
I've kinda abandoned hope for NSL2, if you build a 400 bed hotel you'll give the best seats behind the goal dead-centre to your hotel guests, splitting up any value-priced safe standing vocal locals. That's economics.

TBH I'd prefer they used the NSL2 as a day tripper cluster, and freed up seats elsewhere. My 2 lads are only interested in SS3, having been seated in every other stand in the past. We've had a great buzz up there for a few games, I would love to see a big push to get more vocal fans clustered there...but the other factions will believe their sections are just as good vocally.

It's never gonna be hopping in December and January while we're ticking along in the pack, compare Villa no title in 45 years, Arsenal 20 years, Utd 13 years, Liverpool 2 in 36 years. Success starved fans get more excited by minor victories, we'll be well up for the run in... Arsenal at home, Villa final day, UCL knock outs,
 
I've kinda abandoned hope for NSL2, if you build a 400 bed hotel you'll give the best seats behind the goal dead-centre to your hotel guests, splitting up any value-priced safe standing vocal locals. That's economics.

TBH I'd prefer they used the NSL2 as a day tripper cluster, and freed up seats elsewhere. My 2 lads are only interested in SS3, having been seated in every other stand in the past. We've had a great buzz up there for a few games, I would love to see a big push to get more vocal fans clustered there...but the other factions will believe their sections are just as good vocally.

It's never gonna be hopping in December and January while we're ticking along in the pack, compare Villa no title in 45 years, Arsenal 20 years, Utd 13 years, Liverpool 2 in 36 years. Success starved fans get more excited by minor victories, we'll be well up for the run in... Arsenal at home, Villa final day, UCL knock outs,

And a possible 115 relegation at the end of the season. ;-)
 
I wrote a negative post to you last season about the timing of attendance of 1894.
You responded quite strongly that they were always in place at 10 to 3(sat ko).

I was in my seat at 20 to 3 yesterday as I thought we would have our IN MEMORY, service which I try to respect.

Anyway instead I watched the slow entry of all those in the South Stand, particularly 1894. At 3 minutes to 3 it was less than half full. West ham fans had started chanting at 2.45pm.

There was no noise coming from the SS at 4pm, apart from your support is ffs from the West Ham fans.

This is not a critiscm or opinion it is fact.
It is not your fault or responsibility, but it is also not the fault of our club, or other clubs.
The main 1894 lads are always out early they are on the flags and up on 2nd tier doing drop downs or holding things in place from about a quarter of an hour before kick off. It’s not them coming out with 3 mins to kick off
 
How are 1894 going to make the 8000 capacity 2nd tier a home end?

There are 5000 GA seats, sitting, not standing.
There are GA+ seats. I can’t remember how many. 700?
There is no dedicated singing section/block we know about yet.
There is no youth section/block we know about yet.
There are no prices for tickets and season tickets we know about yet.
Bar the 3000 safe standing seats that are spread along the back and down both sides of NSL2, splitting up the safe standing fans, we don’t know the prices for those seats, the amount of FG season tickets for those seats, and match day ticket prices for those seats.
Bar the limited information the club has released so far about NSL2, we know nothing else.
The club has not pushed NSL2 as a proper and atmospheric home end. Only the fans have done that by hoping it would be that
There is a new 401 room hotel which is attached to the NS which will accommodate fans who will be watching the match from NSL2. Amongst those fans there will be singers, fans who won’t sing, fans of other clubs who have come for the match and a weekend in Manchester, and away fans who will use the hotel as a way to get a match ticket/s via hotel packages.
Taking all of the above into consideration and much more, please tell us how 1894 can make NSL2 our home end without the club engaging with the fans, working with the fans, and making it happen?

You constantly question 1894’s motives, but you never question the clubs motives. If the club wanted to make NSL2 an atmospheric home which all the fans wanted, the club could have started that process months ago, engaged and worked with the fans, and done it by now, with NSL2’s opening next year. Is there still time, yes there is!

Why don’t you tell us why you think the new NSL2 will be a proper and atmospheric home end with what you know already via this thread, other threads, and the information released by the club so far?
3000 rail seats, thats it, fill it with singers and off we go...
But no lets procrastinate and lose the one chance we have...
Everything else is bollocks & excuses.
 
I've kinda abandoned hope for NSL2, if you build a 400 bed hotel you'll give the best seats behind the goal dead-centre to your hotel guests, splitting up any value-priced safe standing vocal locals. That's economics.

TBH I'd prefer they used the NSL2 as a day tripper cluster, and freed up seats elsewhere. My 2 lads are only interested in SS3, having been seated in every other stand in the past. We've had a great buzz up there for a few games, I would love to see a big push to get more vocal fans clustered there...but the other factions will believe their sections are just as good vocally.

It's never gonna be hopping in December and January while we're ticking along in the pack, compare Villa no title in 45 years, Arsenal 20 years, Utd 13 years, Liverpool 2 in 36 years. Success starved fans get more excited by minor victories, we'll be well up for the run in... Arsenal at home, Villa final day, UCL knock outs,


I agree with the part about factions. It's been the same since we moved to the Etihad however, and I can't see that changing for the sake of the expansion.

The only way it could possibly be resolved is by getting the club to work with supporters to come up with a new designated area for next season.
 
I don’t know what the solution is because the lack of atmosphere is created by multiple reasons that are well rehearsed on here. In 001 on Saturday it wasn’t the worst I have seen but there were few SC holders there. Plenty of City fans that had clearly bought match tickets but didn’t contribute to singing or shouting. Plenty of day trippers who were only mildly interested in the game and spent it on their phones or vaping or getting up and down for chips or arriving late for kick off or half time or not finding their seats. Honestly try and create an atmosphere in that mix is always going to be impossible. If that mix of attendees is typical in a lot of the ground then how do you get an atmosphere?
The only way forward is for the club to be serious about wanting to create an atmosphere and working with City Matters/1894/all the other fan groups to agree a way forward. Without concerted effort it will not get better and with the current trend god knows what it will be like in 5 or 10 years.
 
I've kinda abandoned hope for NSL2, if you build a 400 bed hotel you'll give the best seats behind the goal dead-centre to your hotel guests, splitting up any value-priced safe standing vocal locals. That's economics.

TBH I'd prefer they used the NSL2 as a day tripper cluster, and freed up seats elsewhere. My 2 lads are only interested in SS3, having been seated in every other stand in the past. We've had a great buzz up there for a few games, I would love to see a big push to get more vocal fans clustered there...but the other factions will believe their sections are just as good vocally.

It's never gonna be hopping in December and January while we're ticking along in the pack, compare Villa no title in 45 years, Arsenal 20 years, Utd 13 years, Liverpool 2 in 36 years. Success starved fans get more excited by minor victories, we'll be well up for the run in... Arsenal at home, Villa final day, UCL knock outs,
A common-sense post. At the end of last season, two atmospheres stood out: Wolves and Bournemouth. On both instances, their fans took to social media to claim it was the best atmosphere they'd heard all season. There was a touch of jeopardy hanging over us last season, but the fans eventually stood up. The big games will always take care of themselves; both the United and Liverpool games this season were enjoyable occasions. We can always aim to improve, but some of the exaggeration on this site lately has been ludicrous.
 
3000 rail seats, thats it, fill it with singers and off we go...
But no lets procrastinate and lose the one chance we have...
Everything else is bollocks & excuses.

So once again you didn’t answer the question.

You know very well there aren’t 3000 singers to fill all of those 3000 safe standing seats.

There aren’t in SSL1.

There aren’t in blocks 111 and 110.

Tell us why you think there will be 3000 singers to fill 3000 safe standing seats in NSL2?
 
So once again you didn’t answer the question.

You know very well there aren’t 3000 singers to fill all of those 3000 safe standing seats.

There aren’t in SSL1.

There aren’t in blocks 111 and 110.

Tell us why you think there will be 3000 singers to fill 3000 safe standing seats in NSL2?
I rekon there's a lot more singers than we think.

The current singing areas are impossible to get into as an ST holders, and they're always the first areas to sell out on matchdays, the demand is clearly there.

I also personally know many lads who sing their hearts out at away games, yet at home games they sit in quiet areas, so they don't sing.
 

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