President Trump

Tuearts right boot said:
The simple thing is not to get involved in any way. The guy's clearly an idiot and as my dad used to say once you start getting involved with an idiot sometimes it's difficult telling one from the other. On a brighter note, there'll be another one along soon.
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Wtf?
 
TFC said:
We're heading for some real civil unrest here, LA riots style stuff nationwide if this doesn't stop. Fuckung hell
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Not convinced of that one bit.

We're bunch of wusses that just talk shit on twitter..

Hell we couldn't even put our boots on and go vote for the non dictator wannabe lady!

Think it will get a lot worse before it gets better.

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domalino said:
They are ignorant and stupid. Not all of them obviously, they have many of the best universities and research facilities and science/tech/artd institutions in the world. But as a populace on the whole it’s true.

They’ve got the worst literacy rates in the developed world, 60% of them have a reading level below 10 years old.

Ipsos has been doing survey based studies on ignorance in OECD countries for 15 years and the US is consistently in the top 2 - their perception of a bunch of things - immigration, unemployment, wealth disparity, global events - is completely divorced from reality.

It’s not by accident, one party has been destroying their education system and bombarding them with propaganda and disinformation for decades trying to keep them uneducated and ignorant, and I would agree that labelling them that isn’t really helpful and actually sympathise with them.

However that doesn’t change what they are, and it is the biggest reason why Trump and MAGA exists and now the fallout from that is destabilising the rest of the world, Id say it’s more unhelpful to pretend otherwise because you don’t want to be labelled rude or condescending.

If they get through this Trump era, arrest the obvious slide into autocracy and get back to something resembling normality, they will need to spend hundreds of billions on education reforms if they want to stop it happening again. Millions of Americans voted against their own interests because they were easy targets for a conman.
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Very well stated!

As they say, “They love the uneducated!” but when Hillary dared call them “deplorable,” all Hell broke loose.

Now, tell me again about what Trump has said about people…!!!
 
Looks to me like one agent took his gun out and was hitting the fella with it. Wouldn’t be surprised if it discharged and they shit them selves and opened fire on the guy in the ground.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
The simple thing is not to get involved in any way. The guy's clearly an idiot and as my dad used to say once you start getting involved with an idiot sometimes it's difficult telling one from the other. On a brighter note, there'll be another one along soon.
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Fuck off man. He’s trying to protect the lady who got pushed over for nothing and then pepper sprayed. He doesn’t engage agents at all. He’s standing over the woman when they grab him and wrestle him to the ground.
 
Tuearts right boot said:
The simple thing is not to get involved in any way. The guy's clearly an idiot and as my dad used to say once you start getting involved with an idiot sometimes it's difficult telling one from the other. On a brighter note, there'll be another one along soon.
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I like to avoid exaggeration, hype and over-reaction in what I say. So having thought about it for a bit I'd reply that this is one of the most stupid things I've read anywhere in a long time.
 
Feels like we're one pissed off/unhinged person who decides to fight fire with fire and shoots an ICE officer in retaliation away from a huge step towards major civil unrest here. Sadly, it might be the only way we actually see any change as it is hard to see anything other than this getting even worse as is.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Feels like we're one pissed off/unhinged person who decides to fight fire with fire and shoots an ICE officer in retaliation away from a huge step towards major civil unrest here. Sadly, it might be the only way we actually see any change as it is hard to see anything other than this getting even worse as is.
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ICE agents are literally getting away with murder.

If local law enforcement officers had been responsible for the 2 recent deaths in the same manner the ICE agents acted, they wouldn't just be suspended pending enquiries they'd be at best on bail pending facing murder charges.
 
domalino said:
They are ignorant and stupid. Not all of them obviously, they have many of the best universities and research facilities and science/tech/artd institutions in the world. But as a populace on the whole it’s true.

They’ve got the worst literacy rates in the developed world, 60% of them have a reading level below 10 years old.

Ipsos has been doing survey based studies on ignorance in OECD countries for 15 years and the US is consistently in the top 2 - their perception of a bunch of things - immigration, unemployment, wealth disparity, global events - is completely divorced from reality.

It’s not by accident, one party has been destroying their education system and bombarding them with propaganda and disinformation for decades trying to keep them uneducated and ignorant, and I would agree that labelling them that isn’t really helpful and actually sympathise with them.

However that doesn’t change what they are, and it is the biggest reason why Trump and MAGA exists and now the fallout from that is destabilising the rest of the world, Id say it’s more unhelpful to pretend otherwise because you don’t want to be labelled rude or condescending.

If they get through this Trump era, arrest the obvious slide into autocracy and get back to something resembling normality, they will need to spend hundreds of billions on education reforms if they want to stop it happening again. Millions of Americans voted against their own interests because they were easy targets for a conman.
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The reason Trump won is on the margins.

It’s because those smart, well-educated people who went to those universities like some of my friends with degrees from Penn, Berkeley and University of Texas and high-level personal business success thought Trump “wouldn’t be that bad.”

Ask Damocles, mate. He’s not stupid. He was just wrong. He couldn’t bear the thought of some of the leftier, hypocritical, hysterical, impractical aspects of liberalism winning. He thought anti-Trumpism was an overreaction, a fantasy. And so did some of my pals.

Trump couldn’t have won with just his base. It took the educated as well, who rathonalised, ignored or denied the threat.

But they fucked up. Now none will admit it, and that’s what angers and frightens me. They’re ashamed or embarrassed or don’t want to give others who argued with them the satisfaction of an “I told you so.” They have no courage. None. But that’s the first step to healing, right? Admittance. If one can admit one has fucked up, one can start fresh and clean — beginning with “How can we work together to solve the problem at hand now that we all agree it’s a problem?”

But they won’t. They haven’t. They may never.

But that’s as maybe. All of us now have to live with this fallout. But they have to live with the knowledge — painful as I’m sure it is to admit — that they enabled it and stood by and watched, too afraid to hold their hands up, and too afraid to act. That’s all we have left now — we have to display our own courage to make up for their lack of it.

Good luck to us all.
 
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ninjamonkey said:
Feels like we're one pissed off/unhinged person who decides to fight fire with fire and shoots an ICE officer in retaliation away from a huge step towards major civil unrest here.
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It's not hard to imagine this lying government setting someone up to shoot an ICE officer and then get taken out themselves. Easy then to paint them as a deranged lefty terrorist and use the "martyred" officer as an excuse for real draconian rule.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
The reason Trump won is on the margins.

It’s because those smart, well-educated people who went to those universities like some of my friends with degrees from Penn, Berkeley and University of Texas and high-level personal business success thought Trump “wouldn’t be that bad.”

Ask Damocles, mate. He’s not stupid. He was just wrong. He couldn’t bear the thought of some of the leftier, hypocritical, hysterical impractical aspect of liberalism winning. He thought anti-Trumpism was an overreaction, a fantasy. And so did some of my pals.

Trump couldn’t have won with just his base. It took the educated as well, who rathonalised, ignored or denied the threat.

But they fucked up. Now none will admit it, and that’s what angers and frightens me. They’re ashamed or embarrassed or don’t want to give others who argued with them the satisfaction of an “I told you so.” They have no courage. None. But that’s the first step to healing, right? Admittance. If one can admit one has fucked up, one can start fresh and clean — beginning with “How can we work together to solve the problem at hand now that we all agree it’s a problem?”

But they won’t. They haven’t. They may never.

But that’s as maybe. All of us now have to live with this fallout. But they have to live with the knowledge — painful as I’m sure it is to admit — that they enabled it and stood by and watched, too afraid to hold their hands up, and too afraid to act. That’s all we have left now — we have to display our own courage to make up for their lack of it.

Good luck to us all.
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The very same kind of people who would have stood by and watched whilst the Nazi's burn books.

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