What you need to factor in is actually winning 'the' game that gets you over the line - it's an absolute nightmare.Mate come on! Last night was disappointing but Brentford are a decent side. They won at Villa with 10 men for a half!
We are top by 4 points. Doesn't mean we are guaranteed to win it but that's a great position. Do you think City will win every game from now? They have to beat us which won't be easy. Both sides will drop more points but they realistically need to beat us at the Etihad.
If they turn it round and win the league then fair fucks to them but they have a big job on their hand to do that and realistically they will need to win at least 10 of their last 12 to get the league and one of those wins has to be against us. Not easy.
As a 'realistic worst case' we might draw against Spurs away, Chelsea home and Palace away and lose at the Etihad. That would put us on 84 points. I think we will actually end up more likely on 86 or 88 points.
But say we got 84 points that means City would need to get 32 points from the 36 available, meaning they can afford 2 draws or a loss and a draw, and they HAVE to beat us.
I think we have to win them all and hope for a big favour your fixtures are easy bar our ganeWell that's the problem with written words vs speaking as people can interpret messages differently. In my post I made it clear that I could see us losing at the Etihad so I absolutely wasn't painting that as a supremely difficult match for City - just one that they have to win.
Declan Rice is a utility player with a good work ethic and a very good delivery.If you think that being fair minded is standing up for a tarquin who comes onto a city forum and loudly claims that Declan Rice walks into any City starting 11 of the last 10 or so years then I’m going to have to reassess how I interpret the phrase.
How are Thiago's stats for getting hauled down by maybe one but mostly two defenders and getting nowt from the refs? Do they stack up too?Slightly off topic, but I’m not sure if it was last night or an earlier game, but in their desperation to belittle what Erling is doing, they let it be known that Thiago has a better conversion percentage than the Viking.
Just how pathetic can the be?
And how low can they go?
I think we’re better than a lot.Yep. He's been fine since he came on. We're not a good forum for accepting views from other fans.
Funnily enough, the commentator made no mention of that.How are Thiago's stats for getting hauled down by maybe one but mostly two defenders and getting nowt from the refs? Do they stack up too?
Hasn’t he been on here for quite a whilePossibly because of the rag, dipper supporting types who come on here pretending to be City supporters or purely to wind up the forum.
They usually don't last long obviously before they are exposed and fucked off, and he isn't the worst.
Well all of that maybe true but I’d like to think we could be just a little bit differentWe’re the greatest forum in the land and all the world and this is a forum for City fans.
Individuals on here don’t HAVE to embrace inclusivity and we certainly don’t have to be a great forum for supporters of rival teams. There are (just a few!) people on here, as in life, who could be considered rude and disrespectful and others who are incredibly polite and tolerant. Some poster’s aren’t just rude to Arsenal interlopers either!
I’m not sure many of us would fare particularly well on well on the dippers, rags, tarquin’s forum or any other fan forum for that matter!
He is but it was obvious to anyone who watched City week in week out that he was never the answer to their centre forward problem and getting £50 million was great business.Jesus is a good sub. for them. They've still not fixed their centre forward problem.
NonsenseI think we have to win them all and hope for a big favour your fixtures are easy bar our gane
It's City PTSD. If it was Liverpool chasing us we'd chill but City have form for A going on long winning runs at the business end of the season and B doing it against Arsenal.I know every top team has bedwetters including ours but browsing arse mania last night 95 percent of the fanbase thinks we are gonna win it and at least 70 percent want Lego out, that is fucking ridiculous.
We have done some serious mental damage to your fanbase for them to be 4 points clear with a reasonable amount of winnable games and still have no confidence to see the season out.
Reverse our situations and I’d guess there won’t be many in here thinking like that.
I don’t include you btw.
You being disrespectful is mentioning Plodder in the same sentence as Yaya.I haven't said anything remotely disrespectful about City. I've said they have a tough ask to win the league from here but that it is possible. You talk about 'mask dropping' and others say that too but all I've done is point out the facts about current league position, matches still to come and been realistic about it, whilst still not ruling City out.
Or am I supposed to just say City will piss the league from here just for the sake of it even though we both know that at the current moment City will be huge underdogs.
Me being disrespectful would have been to say something like City are a bad team etc but that is not what I have said.
Squad depth doesn’t suddenly help develop mentality or the ability to handle pressure though. The final stage of the season is a completely different ball game. You are talking about factors that will help a team in the first 28-30 games in a season.It's City PTSD. If it was Liverpool chasing us we'd chill but City have form for A going on long winning runs at the business end of the season and B doing it against Arsenal.
I just think this season squad depth will help Arsenal get through games that in other seasons we'd lose or draw. And at the same time this City side isn't the side of a few years ago so you might drop points at places like Chelsea, Bournemouth etc. But we will see.
hmmm but we're better than that....aren't we? Well we aren't really ..for me its a shame, its much better to have a proper football debate. I buried my dad last Friday 85 yrs a proper blue. He always made time to have decent football chats with opposing fans, especially without the toxic internet we used to get some good insight and have healthy debates about their team, their town, their local politics whatever,,, he also used to tell us to watch key players from the opposition too, to learn the game properly. Its way too partisan now, and we are worse off for it. Lets be the site that encourages grown up chat and not throw ridiculous petty insults... despite what other club fans may do..lets be better than thatWe’re the greatest forum in the land and all the world and this is a forum for City fans.
Individuals on here don’t HAVE to embrace inclusivity and we certainly don’t have to be a great forum for supporters of rival teams. There are (just a few!) people on here, as in life, who could be considered rude and disrespectful and others who are incredibly polite and tolerant. Some poster’s aren’t just rude to Arsenal interlopers either!
I’m not sure many of us would fare particularly well on well on the dippers, rags, tarquin’s forum or an other fan forum for that matter!
I agree.hmmm but we're better than that....aren't we? Well we aren't really ..for me its a shame, its much better to have a proper football debate. I buried my dad last Friday 85 yrs a proper blue. He always made time to have decent football chats with opposing fans, especially without the toxic internet we used to get some good insight and have healthy debates about their team, their town, their local politics whatever,,, he also used to tell us to watch key players from the opposition too, to learn the game properly. Its way too partisan now, and we are worse off for it. Lets be the site that encourages grown up chat and not throw ridiculous petty insults... despite what other club fans may do..lets be better than that
I agree, different season different teams.. One thing i would say is that the meeja try and whip up a run in frenzy at Christmas FFS.. there's still nearly a whole third of the season left and we're in mid Feb.. i remember Liverpool won their first 7 and the mmeja fuckwits tried to get people to debate whether the league has already been won!! One thing that Pep gets right is a season long plan, he knows how to use domestic cups, the effect of the business end of chumps league, he rotates slightly which helps, uses cups as part of the training week etc,, it seems ... that helps him get the best out of the last 8 - 10 games - still 20 - 25% left!! I think Arsenal have a similar process to City now though re the 'season management' aspect - but with a stronger squad..at least i think it will be close and that will be better for the league. We will lose a couple though which with our young team is expected... IF we do manage to win at home v you,,.(BIG IF) it should be a close end.It's City PTSD. If it was Liverpool chasing us we'd chill but City have form for A going on long winning runs at the business end of the season and B doing it against Arsenal.
I just think this season squad depth will help Arsenal get through games that in other seasons we'd lose or draw. And at the same time this City side isn't the side of a few years ago so you might drop points at places like Chelsea, Bournemouth etc. But we will see.
The cracks are showing.....