Denton and Gorton by-election - Green Party wins

Agreed but the war in Ukraine has changed things but Labour are still moving towards a British Owned Energy company and running off renewables as soon as possible (and still aiming for Net Zero by 2050 - to do otherwise would require a change in legislation ) This may mean that the 2030 ''renewables'' is missed and under discussion is the development of the Rosebank Oil Field in the North Sea.

From another thread I pointed out that the Royal Family are charging for rental of land from the sea floor and are due to earn 2% of the profit made once the wind farms go online (although in his defence Charles has now given up charging rental on 6 new wind farms whilst they are being built)

They only made £1.1 billion from wind farms in 2024.

At least the royal dosh gets invested in the UK.
 
They are fulfilling the commitments outlined in the manifesto. They were elected on the basis of their proposals

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So being a little bored and that graph piquing my interest I decided to go through the pledges with the help of full fact org. Firstly the graph is wrong - the government have “abandoned” 4 pledges so far (ie not kept in FF parlance). Out of 92 pledges 19 can be seen as achieved, these are:


Set out path to spending 2.5% of GDP on defence. Government has said will spend 2.5% from April 2027. Hasn’t explained how but is broader than defence budget as the 2.5% pledge also includes funding pensions for ex service folk and other projects that can be deemed to help with defence, eg build a new road.

Create a new publicly owned company called Great British Energy. Company created and it’s set out its plans. Funding of £300m to be paid out of 4 years and is now accepting applications with first funding to be made available April 2026 and finishing March 2030.

Establish National Wealth Fund. Rebranded UK infrastructure bank. However the promised £7.3bn of funding the government have said will not happen now.

Introduce a Neighbourhood Police Guarantee. Extra funding is now available to police forces.

Update National Policy Planning Framework including restoring mandatory housing targets. New document produced with updated NPP.

End VAT exemption and business rates relief for private schools. Done.

Create new Border Security Command and recruit hundreds of staff. BSC created, £75m funding in place, recruitment for up to 300 staff in progress.

Every fiscal event that makes significant changes subject to OBR forecast. Done but they don’t really like OBR forecasts unless favourable.

New Ethics and Integrity Commission to ensure probity in government. I mean it’s setup but probity seems a way off yet!!!

Negotiate and speed up returns. Done with things like one in one out deal and have return agreements with 24 countries although some of these already existed.

Review of sentencing to bring up to date. Review published with recommendations

Recognise Palestinian state. Formally recognised in Sept 25

New legislation for greater regulatory power against water companies. New powers brought forward under last government are now on the books alongside additional powers and requirements.

Supervised tooth brushing scheme for 3 to 5 year olds. Scheme launched in 2025 with £11m being made available for to help around 600,000 children.

Introduce Football Governance Bill. Previous government bill now on books

Strategic Defence Review. Completed in June 2025 with 62 recommendations which government accepted. Government has made various commitments towards some of those recommendations thus far.

Two million extra NHS appointments. Achieved but government changed pledge from a permanent annual improvement to just delivery it as a one off - partly due to doctor strikes I would think.

End use of offshore trusts to avoid inheritance tax. New rules in place as part of Finance Act 2025

Abolish non-dom status. Done. Part of Finance Act 2025
 




The bookies massively have the greens in the lead. I would prefer to vote Labour, but I have to vote tactically on this one. As I've said, whoever the bookies have leading out of Labour and Green on Thursday, I will vote for them, and I know quite a few doing the same. I don't think the greens are that great, but i'd rather have them any day over this prick from reform.
 
The bookies massively have the greens in the lead. I would prefer to vote Labour, but I have to vote tactically on this one. As I've said, whoever the bookies have leading out of Labour and Green on Thursday, I will vote for them, and I know quite a few doing the same. I don't think the greens are that great, but i'd rather have them any day over this prick from reform.

It's an absolute no brainer for anyone wanting to vote Labour to switch to Greens. I think most to the left of the party will 100% do so. Would be a comfortable win then for the greens.
 
When I saw his expressionless face scanning the crowd at Levenshulme hustings, I was taken with how much he reminded me of the policeman (T-1000) in Terminator 2.
He comes across as a shockingly bad candidate but we'll see on Thursday if people in the area agree or don't agree with that. Is bizarre, going from one of the safest labour seats to the possibility of reform getting in just because of a boundary change. I'll be devastated if he wins because he will not give two shits about us.
 
So it was nonsense that Labour would rather Reform win than the Greens...
Don’t know but they’ve been playing into reforms hands for that last 12 months by almost taking them on at reforms game. In a battle they can never win. As a consequence they’ve completely lost the left. As will be shown later on this week
 

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