US & Israel attack Iran

[meltonblue]

Thing is, Iran was far from perfect in 1979, but where was? Or is?

It’s hard to imagine it being worse off if the revolution had failed to get off the ground.

Both as a country as a whole and for the rights of the individuals living there, I agree.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

You're British?
You live in Dubai to avoid UK tax?
You're under attack because of the US and Israel?
WTF should my tax pay to help you?

How does one determine that a British citizen lives in Dubai solely to “avoid tax”?

 

[Damocles]

Never achieve what? Your answer is unclear.

Too much Carling mate.

They can never achieve being a serious regional power. Due to culture, the American backed Israel and the willingness of other states in the region to prioritise trade over regional security, Iran will always be The Other. Their Russian and Chinese "allies" have shown their colours in the last few days. It will always be a pariah until they submit to Western interests

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Both as a country as a whole and for the rights of the individuals living there, I agree.

Whata great stop off Tehran could be or be on the way to the far east. Far better than Dubai. Its so well situated as a hub.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

 

[Damocles]

I don't know the reality, but 90% of the US Middle Eastern intelligence command comes from Cyprus so I'll presume they're trying to hit that rather than the UK specifically.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Too much Carling mate.

They can never achieve being a serious regional power. Due to culture, the American backed Israel and the willingness of other states in the region to prioritise trade over regional security, Iran will always be The Other. Their Russian and Chinese "allies" have shown their colours in the last few days. It will always be a pariah until they submit to Western interests

The poimt I was (poorly, it would appear) making was that submitting to western interests (to some extent) was how they would have achieved that. They definitely wouldn’t have had to go full Dubai, either.

They should have had a World Cup by now.

My point is that the people of Iran would be happier now if that had happened, rather than the shitshow of the last 47 years.

 

[domalino]

Thing is, Iran was far from perfect in 1979, but where was? Or is?

It’s hard to imagine it being worse off if the revolution had failed to get off the ground.

The revolution got of the ground because for the majority of people in Iran, it was a pretty awful place to be under the Shah.

It was a popular uprising after all, not a military junta or some other tiny group seizing power. The Islamists were just the biggest of the groups that revolted, liberal democratic groups were also major players, as well as communists.

Perhaps a better question would be where Iran would be if we and the US hadn’t blown up Iranian democracy with the 1953 coup.

 

[Damocles]

The poimt I was (poorly, it would appear) making was that submitting to western interests (to someextent) was how they would have achieved that.

My point is that the people of Iran would be happier now if that had happened.

I'm sure you made a salient point that I didn't understand. My prediction on the outcome is civil war if regime change is their goal. But worse than Iraq, a lot worse

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

UK has accepted US request to use its military bases, Starmer says

Wanker.

Should have told them to stick their tariffs up their arse, and then ask again nicely, once tariffs have been removed.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I don't know the reality, but 90% of the US Middle Eastern intelligence command comes from Cyprus so I'll presume they're trying to hit that rather than the UK specifically.

We have Typhoons up in the air shooting down Iranian missiles I think they are bombing our base as we are involved the PM said as much

I was hoping we stayed out of it but it’s to late for that the latest news is one Shahed missile has hit the base and we are trying to determine the evolving situation.

I Just pray the troops stay safe

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

And what’ve all those got in common?

Cunts!

Bought and paid for cunts.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Iran is burning at this moment and here is the PM’s speech backing an illegal war
“UK's Keir Starmer says he will help USA to fight Iran and that he would allow the US to use British military bases:

“The only way to stop the threat is to destroy Iranian missiles at source, in their storage depots or the launchers which are used to fire the missiles.

The United States has requested permission to use British bases for that specific and limited defensive purpose.

We have taken the decision to accept this request, to prevent Iran firing missiles across the region, killing innocent civilians, putting British lives at risk, and hitting countries that have not been involved”

Starmer helps Trump after the insults and tariff's and bows down to American demands??

 

[SWP's back]

Sarcy comment on the desire for some ex-pats in ME who "are there to only evade tax" to not visit the Embassy or be evacuated, because "they went to cheat on their taxes so they deserve to live in a war zone".

Not sure where you are atm, just being a dick to others who think we as a nation should abandon people in the UAE et al

Yeah I’ve just caught up. Some strange folk about. I’m safely tucked away a few thousand miles away but my mates out in Qatar are watching exciting fireworks. Fuck em though. Non tax paying cunts.

 

[wolviedinho]

I feel for the Iranian innocents caught up in this depressing predictable situation. 2026 and war is raging across the world yet again.

Total human failure.

Ukraine
Iran
Yemen
Gaza
Syria
Mexico

Leaders are not leading. The level is set to scum pervert mode. Or killing human right abusers.

All this based on the back of religion and geography. But my god is the one true god and all other versions is wrong. It’s fucking pathetic.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

How does one determine that a British citizen lives in Dubai solely to “avoid tax”?

Plenty do. My nephew who has his own business did it. Register the business over there, and as long as the business owner doesn't spend more than 90 days in the UK in the year, it gets taxed at Dubai rates. The business owner doesn't have to spend the entirety of that time in Dubai, just a certain amount of time.

 

[Don Karleone]

It does make me laugh that people are happy that this is happening, and the person in charge of it is FUCKING TRUMP! Idiots.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Plenty do. My nephew who has his own business did it. Register the business over there, and as long as the business owner doesn't spend more than 90 days in the UK in the year, it gets taxed at Dubai rates. The business owner doesn't have to spend the entirety of that time in Dubai, just a certain amount of time.

Obviously Brits can and do live in Dubai for all sorts of reasons — my question was how the poster in question would determine they were there only for tax reasons and none other, and therefore justify (in his mind) the UK not protecting those particular citizens there?

 

[BobKowalski]

Iran is burning at this moment and here is the PM’s speech backing an illegal war
“UK's Keir Starmer says he will help USA to fight Iran and that he would allow the US to use British military bases:

“The only way to stop the threat is to destroy Iranian missiles at source, in their storage depots or the launchers which are used to fire the missiles.

The United States has requested permission to use British bases for that specific and limited defensive purpose.

We have taken the decision to accept this request, to prevent Iran firing missiles across the region, killing innocent civilians, putting British lives at risk, and hitting countries that have not been involved”

Starmer helps Trump after the insults and tariff's and bows down to American demands??

The Government, no matter its political stripe, cannot ignore missile strikes on British bases and/or on countries not directly involved in the conflict and are home to a significant number of British citizens.

The use of British bases is limited to strikes on depots and launchers. The UK is not initiating these strikes they are responding to direct attacks. In short lobbing missiles at us, France or whoever is going to provoke a response irrespective of any concerns over the wisdom of the initial strike on Iran.

 

[BlueAnorak]

So Iran decides to attack Cyprus (part of the EU) and British bases there. Ho hum.
Of course the usual suspects won't believe that for a second.