Real Madrid (H) | CL | Post Match Thread

[Father Paul]

I never expected us to win it, and we wouldn't have won it under the old format either, I just think there are too many variables now, and too many matches is a significant issue.

Your right about too many games. The increase in European games requires less domestic football perhaps a smaller league (not happening) No LC for teams in Europe might help a bit. Other would like a return to something like the old competition but that isn't happening either.

 

[eyalluvitt]

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How the hell is the other player not offside, he’s got to be interfering, he’s not receiving the ball but he’s ahead that’s an advantage, it’s a joke, why doesn’t he just go stand next to the keeper!

Our quadruple up in smoke

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Also, we have Rodri and Both Nico's

I like Kova, carries the ball forward well, would keep him.

 

[ancoats]

Our quadruple up in smoke
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This is the rub they use to give the advantage to the so-called elite teams ? 100% if that was a City attack, they would use the first player and state it's in the rules it's offside, interfering because he's running towards the ball

Look, I am glad we put up such a fight with 10 men and very proud of the lads, We were not winning the Champions League this season because of many things and the so-called draw ? We did it in the treble season with a outstanding squad of players, but this squad is in a rebuild and needs time

No Shame in Losing and we did show our intent for the future
THIS IS OUR CITY

 

[coolcity]

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That's exactly what my argument is.

We have incredible technology now which can work out distances down to a fraction of a millimetre from all angles, so why are we using cartoons to "prove" to the watching audience that a player was offside (or not)? I'm not accusing anybody of anything, I'm just asking the question.

A 3D printer can be purchased for around £500, which is capable of printing a line at a size of 0.2 millimetres in a position so accurate that you can't even see the joins between the printed lines, yet we can't get an accurate photo to see whether someone is offside or not? Go figure.

The truth is you don't even need anything but a basic photo so see that's a mile offside. It's not even close enough to call a debate.

 

[coolcity]

Why do we always draw RM? I ran it through AI to see what the probability was of meeting them at the stage we have over 8 seasons and this was the result:

"The odds of Manchester City meeting Real Madrid in 8 consecutive Champions League seasons at the stages they met work out to between 1 in 500,000 and 1 in 35,000,000

Even using the most generous assumptions, the probability is staggeringly small — far less than 0.001%.
This explains why their current run of repeated meetings feels extraordinary."

I've never been a conspiracy theorist, not with football anyway, but too much goes on that doesn't go our way for something not to be happening. It's seems clear that since the UEFA charges they don't want us to win anything and since we won it they seem to have doubled down.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

I thought at the time it was a foul and a yellow for the Madrid player, but no it's Pep who gets booked. The most stonewall foul you will see yet again it goes against us.

 

[Ban-jani]

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It’s definitely onside, we need to move on.

 

[noseve]

The odds of Manchester City meeting Real Madrid in 8 consecutive Champions League seasons at the stages they met work out to between 1 in 500,000 and 1 in 35,000,000

The fact that that range of values is 1:70 tells you that it's no more than a sound-byte anyway, but the query that you used, including 'at the stages they met' massively increases the odds, so difficult to read too much into it.

A simple 'odds of City meeting RM' would be more realistic.

It is the most commonly played match-up in UCL history, though, according to the radio commentary.

Edit: 8 seasons?

 

[noseve]

Why do we always draw RM? I ran it through AI to see what the probability was of meeting them at the stage we have over 8 seasons and this was the result:

"The odds of Manchester City meeting Real Madrid in 8 consecutive Champions League seasons at the stages they met work out to between 1 in 500,000 and 1 in 35,000,000

Even using the most generous assumptions, the probability is staggeringly small — far less than 0.001%.
This explains why their current run of repeated meetings feels extraordinary."

I've never been a conspiracy theorist, not with football anyway, but too much goes on that doesn't go our way for something not to be happening. It's seems clear that since the UEFA charges they don't want us to win anything and since we won it they seem to have doubled down.

But the fixture structure was determined before the competition began, so the only matter left to chance was a 50/50 toss-up between RM and Bodo, surely?

The same as last year - weren't Bayern the alternatives then? Just as tough.

If Uefa really are favouring RM they're doing a poor job, with maybe Bayern and PSG in their way.

 

[Corky]

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How the hell is the other player not offside, he’s got to be interfering, he’s not receiving the ball but he’s ahead that’s an advantage, it’s a joke, why doesn’t he just go stand next to the keeper!

It has been the same since the 1994 world cup. See in particular Brazil v Netherlands.

Now they give it if they run back 50 yards with no advantage, but they can have 10 offside if they don't touch it first.

 

[Corky]

Why do we always draw RM? I ran it through AI to see what the probability was of meeting them at the stage we have over 8 seasons and this was the result:

"The odds of Manchester City meeting Real Madrid in 8 consecutive Champions League seasons at the stages they met work out to between 1 in 500,000 and 1 in 35,000,000

Even using the most generous assumptions, the probability is staggeringly small — far less than 0.001%.
This explains why their current run of repeated meetings feels extraordinary."

I've never been a conspiracy theorist, not with football anyway, but too much goes on that doesn't go our way for something not to be happening. It's seems clear that since the UEFA charges they don't want us to win anything and since we won it they seem to have doubled down.

The odds of any combination of 8 draws including stages will be millions to 1.

It is like saying the chances of those moves in a chess match are 1000,000,000,000 to 1 for 38 moves. Doesn't mean it is a fix, as all odds are high.

If Uefa favour RM but not City, why pair us when we always used to be favourites, and the odds of the favourites winning is higher over 2 games.

 

[GazM]

I thought at the time it was a foul and a yellow for the Madrid player, but no it's Pep who gets booked. The most stonewall foul you will see yet again it goes against us.

Ridiculous. French tw*t.

 

[ancoats]

I thought at the time it was a foul and a yellow for the Madrid player, but no it's Pep who gets booked. The most stonewall foul you will see yet again it goes against us.

This happened all night and Doku had about 3 or 4 clear fouls just waved away
Little things like this make a very big difference to the game ? It should have been a free kick in a dangerous area to possibly leading to a goal, Also, a yellow card and the Madrid player needs to be very careful

We get slated for saying the match officials are not being fair ? But this is why we are 100% right
It's so easy to see it a clear foul and have the right to moan and complain to the referee, but he shows Pep a yellow card, shocking

 

[Cassandra]

So we'd win due to incorrect decisions? Rags and dippers would love a return to compliant officials. - As would Real Madrid of course, but they didn't need help over the two legs.

Yes I wasn’t actually implying that thr VAR decisions were wrong ( though I’m not entirely convinced by the offside) but simply if they had gone with the on field decisions then Madrid wouldn’t have got a penalty and Bernardo wouldn’t have got a red card. City then played well enough, in my view to, win the game if not the tie.

 

[searsleftpeg]

Re offsides,how the player is measured within a fraction of a millimeter, yet no such accuracy is available for the other end of the equation,ie the nano second the ball is kicked .
To me, that means any close decision is guesswork at best.

 

[pauls]

Re offsides,how the player is measured within a fraction of a millimeter, yet no such accuracy is available for the other end of the equation,ie the nano second the ball is kicked .
To me, that means any close decision is guesswork at best.

Or manipulatable.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

We are in a bad run of luck and nothing seems to fall our way, You can see the players snatching at every chance because they are desperate. I will say that when it turns, and it will, then somebody is going to get it

Mark Hughes was sacked for saying something very similar to that.

 

[aka blue jambo]

Re offsides,how the player is measured within a fraction of a millimeter, yet no such accuracy is available for the other end of the equation,ie the nano second the ball is kicked .
To me, that means any close decision is guesswork at best.

.thats always been my argument
The nano split second

 

[ancoats]

Mark Hughes was sacked for saying something very similar to that.

But he was working with a bunch of football mercenaries who didn't want it badly enough, Mancini had to clear them out quickly and build the foundations that we play on today