President Trump

moomba said:
All of the governments outrage over Irans actions so far counts for very little when Trump is threatening to commit major war crimes and the best we can do is say we wont join in.

Grow a fucking backbone and tell them that if they dont comply with international law they wont have any bases in British territory.

Sure it will cost us financially, but when finances take precedence over complicity in war crimes then then we've got our priorities wrong.
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I agree but we may well be putting as much diplomatic pressure on them as we can. Unlike the Americans, we tend to conduct our diplomacy away from the public gaze and not through social media.
 
RiversideBlue said:
I agree but we may well be putting as much diplomatic pressure on them as we can. Unlike the Americans, we tend to conduct our diplomacy away from the public gaze and not through social media.
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There comes a time when quiet diplomacy isnt good enough.

If USA bombed civilian infrastructure I'm not sure we could stay aligned with them without being seen as complicit.

So we should be upfront about it. Leave the world in no doubt. And if we cant do that, stfu and stop moralising about the actions of other countries because we are the bad guys.
 
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Blue Maverick said:
Amazing how they’ll call out Kanye West yet not this twat, saying they can’t comment on Trump yet jumping on West for the ant semite stuff, now I’m not supporting West but the double standards when this **** in America is threatening war crimes and killing innocents.
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I’m not convinced Trump will carry out his threats as he will be aware that will finish him.
 
moomba said:
There comes a time when quiet diplomacy isnt good enough.

If USA bombed civilian infrastructure I'm not sure we could stay aligned with them without being seen as complicit.

So we should be upfront about it. Leave the world in no doubt. And if we cant do that, stfu and stop moralising about the actions of other countries because we are the bad guys.
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The US/Israel bombed a newly built bridge the other day, killing innocent civilians in the process.
I agree with what you are saying but let's be honest, they are already committing war crimes and the world is doing nothing.

Israel has been committing war crimes for years and we've done nothing.
 
Dubai Blue said:
He's made this claim before, and as far as I'm aware no one has been able to find this book he keeps referring to. The fact that he keeps repeating it when he's already been told no such evidence exists should serve as yet another signal for the men in white coats to come and drag the mad **** away.
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It’s a book. A bigly one. I’ve been told it’s the greatest book ever written , certainly better than the Gruffalo.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Praise Jehovah.
 
Dubai Blue said:
He's made this claim before, and as far as I'm aware no one has been able to find this book he keeps referring to. The fact that he keeps repeating it when he's already been told no such evidence exists should serve as yet another signal for the men in white coats to come and drag the mad **** away.
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According to Eugene Kiely of FactCheck.org, the book "doesn't warn 'we better be careful with this guy named Osama bin Laden.' It doesn't say the U.S. 'better take him out.' And Trump's reference to bin Laden as someone 'nobody really knew' at the time is wrong, too."<

According to Rebecca Kaplan of CBS News, Trump wrote that "we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the [1993] bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers." Kaplan stated that "Trump was, in fact, right that there was a terror attack far greater in scale than the 1993 World Trade Center bombings, which killed six people and injured more than 1,000. The Sept. 11 attacks killed nearly 3,000. He was off-base about other aspects, though. Trump predicted the terror plot would be the result of the miniaturization of weapons like nuclear bombs or a canister of anthrax." Additionally, "[Trump] merely pointed [to] bin Laden as an illustration of haphazard foreign policy—not to predict that bin Laden would be responsible for the next attack against the U.S."

Jessica Riedl of the Manhattan Institute, regarding if Trump's statements were even factual, “the U.S. govt had been aware of Bin Laden for decades, and by the mid-1990s he was the CIA’s most wanted terrorist with several well-known attacks. They were actively pursuing him at the time. So Trump’s boast is like warning the world about Hitler in 1942.”

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argyle said:
His government now brazenly supporting the Putin backed Orban.

www.bbc.co.uk

JD Vance backs Orbán's re-election bid in Budapest visit and hits out at EU

US Vice-President JD Vance intervenes in the campaign to give Orbán a ringing endorsement in Budapest.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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And that's the problem. Ok Trump might be impeached, he might die of a stroke or with any luck be assassinated but, this fucker will then be in charge.
Trump is not the problem, it is the collective group that are running America and interfering/destabilising the world that are the problem.

Supporting Orban is to destabilise the e.u.
 
moomba said:
There comes a time when quiet diplomacy isnt good enough.

If USA bombed civilian infrastructure I'm not sure we could stay aligned with them without being seen as complicit.

So we should be upfront about it. Leave the world in no doubt. And if we cant do that, stfu and stop moralising about the actions of other countries because we are the bad guys.
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I agree. What, if anything, he does tonight may well define the next 50 years for the world. It certainly should define whether the Royal visit goes ahead or not. Imagine the King sitting next to a president accused of war crimes.
 
WT86 said:
Weak sentences happen everywhere, including the UK, and particularly in the context of sexual abuse. It's a problem in every society in the world. I seem to recall a DPP who is now PM apologizing for not charging Jimmy Savile. You just obsess when it happens in the US because like a good number of people in these threads, you have a xenophobic and hypocritical fixation on the country.
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Some truth in what you say, but there's a huge difference between not charging at all - which could simply be a case of evidential thresholds not having been met (although admittedly Savile definitely a tough one to fathom) - and dishing out, or commuting to more lenient a sentence when a conviction has been successful. Irrespective of the nation involved.

That's another level.
 
hampshireblue said:
I agree. What, if anything, he does tonight may well define the next 50 years for the world. It certainly should define whether the Royal visit goes ahead or not. Imagine the King sitting next to a president accused of war crimes.
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Well, we did offer an unprecedented second State Visit to a convicted criminal, so who knows?
 
The man is clearly mentally deranged,coupled with the fact that he is the most powerful man on the planet and has God on his side.He has his finger on the Nuclear button and according to a recent article I read,seemingly no one in his way to stop him pressing it,these are very worrying times
 
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