2026 Grand National (11 April)

Really?

Horses can die flat racing, out in the paddock, retired in a field, or just from any other accident or illness. Their bone structure and physical frame don't usually allow for a repair like a human, so unfortunately a decision has to be made from time to time.

No racing......no thoroughbred horses.


An awful lot has been done over the years to improve horse welfare, but for me, there are other areas that need looking at, not the actual racing on the racecourse.
My sister owned a non thoroughbred horse which was not raced, just shown and ridden and lived happily in a field.
Another horse in the same field lashed out and broke my sister's horse's leg and it was game over.
Horses in training are mostly living a great life and enjoy racing as it is their instinct as herd animals. When they cease to enjoy it their performance declines and they are mostly retired from racing.
 
One dead already.
Sport of kings my arse
As I mentioned, Gewan was put down this morning and he was a flat racehorse and wasn't even out racing on the track competing.

I have no problem with people having a differing opinion, but base it on something truthful and accurate, rather than simple uneducated emotion or social media rants.
 
My sister owned a non thoroughbred horse which was not raced, just shown and ridden and lived happily in a field.
Another horse in the same field lashed out and broke my sister's horse's leg and it was game over.
Horses in training are mostly living a great life and enjoy racing as it is their instinct as herd animals. When they cease to enjoy it their performance declines and they are mostly retired from racing.
The end result is the same as Gold Dancer today, but it doesn't quite have the same social media impact though, does it Deepest Blue?

These people and their horse welfare don't care one iota about your sisters horse, because it doesn't drive their biased agenda and ideology.
 
These people and their horse welfare don't care one iota about your sisters horse, because it doesn't drive their biased agenda and ideology.
Yes you're correct, I have zero interest in some nag his sister sat her arse on.
It's just shown that accidents can happen but there's nothing natural about whipping highly inbred horses to force them to run beyond their physical limit and jump a series of life-threatening obstacles.
 
Yes you're correct, I have zero interest in some nag his sister sat her arse on.
It's just shown that accidents can happen but there's nothing natural about whipping highly inbred horses to force them to run beyond their physical limit and jump a series of life-threatening obstacles.
Clearly you have no understanding of the physicality of this sport, or most others come to that.

I would 100% agree with you regarding the whip of a few decades ago, but if you were to take the time to learn, you would see that these modern cushioned whips are not comparable.....and that is a good thing.

You cannot force a horse to do anything, merely encourage it and what does 'beyond their physical limit' mean? Do you know what a horses physical limit is?

If I go back to the whip comment with regard to racing. There is a massive difference in using a whip for encouragement when racing. I've made the comparison before regarding its impact.

I've played a lot of football over the years and had some good hard knocks from tackles. At the time I barely noticed them in the 'heat of battle' so to speak, but if I was out walking on the street and somebody gave me the same kick, I have no doubt it would be extremely painful.

Why, it's the same impact?

The whip is the same in racing, it's not a brutal tool, it's a riding aid for a number of reasons. The regulations are much stricter now with regard to how, where and how many times it can be used.
 
Clearly you have no understanding of the physicality of this sport, or most others come to that.

I would 100% agree with you regarding the whip of a few decades ago, but if you were to take the time to learn, you would see that these modern cushioned whips are not comparable.....and that is a good thing.

You cannot force a horse to do anything, merely encourage it and what does 'beyond their physical limit' mean? Do you know what a horses physical limit is?

If I go back to the whip comment with regard to racing. There is a massive difference in using a whip for encouragement when racing. I've made the comparison before regarding its impact.

I've played a lot of football over the years and had some good hard knocks from tackles. At the time I barely noticed them in the 'heat of battle' so to speak, but if I was out walking on the street and somebody gave me the same kick, I have no doubt it would be extremely painful.

Why, it's the same impact?

The whip is the same in racing, it's not a brutal tool, it's a riding aid for a number of reasons. The regulations are much stricter now with regard to how, where and how many times it can be used.
I used to ride horses up to when i was a late teenager, the whip was a piece of apparatus to aid the horse from going off course whilst out cantering and galloping, it was never used to inflict pain on the horse.

As you say whips are feather light now and can only be used sparingly.
 
I don't bet on the National. I'm like the grim reaper for horses. If I've put a tenner on you at 5 to 4, you're getting a shotgun to the face at 10 past.
 
Jagwar for me, his jumping has cost him some firsts but he's never actually gone over and hopefully a slower pace over four miles will help in that department.

Plus it's Mark Walsh's last national as JP's number one, you image he'd be sufficiently magnanimous (McManimous?) to stick him on a good one.
 
Jagwar for me, his jumping has cost him some firsts but he's never actually gone over and hopefully a slower pace over four miles will help in that department.

Plus it's Mark Walsh's last national as JP's number one, you image he'd be sufficiently magnanimous (McManimous?) to stick him on a good one.
Thats the problem with Jagwar, those jumping mistakes have cost him previously. And now he takes on one of,if not the hardest course in the uk.
Theres a lively outsider who goes by the name of Marble sands. Around 80-1.
 
I'm not an avid watcher but not sure I've seen so many strong runs by the loose horses before?

Normally they give up or go quite slowly. Winner this year.
 
"but the horse enjoys it, doing what it loves to do best"

What jumping 30 fucking fences all taller than the poor ****, back to back.

It's a fucking horrible sport. One up from fox hunting.
 

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