Most Overrated Player to Play for City

theres only one carlito said:
Jesus, there is list longer than the equator of players the club thought were good enough before purchasing them. Its a who's who of overrated shite.

But in terms of a player i watched and astonishingly received 4 POTY awards is Richard Dunne. Now i know a lot of people back him and hold him in high regard, im not one of them.

He was a disaster. An own goal record holder, joint red card record holder, slow, to big and just not my cup of tea.

His passion and desire were credible but his football ability was, for me, terrible.
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In retrospect I think Distin deserved at least one POTY award in the four years that Dunne won them, but Dunne was a top defender for City at the time and often bailed us out of the shit during the Keegan & Pearce years in the PL.

Like I implied, Distin was probably the classier and more measured defender, but it's not like Dunne had a shabby career and I think he could have left us for a Europa League-level club if he'd wanted to. It's what he eventually did.

The own goals he scored in a City shirt (six, I think?) came because he just happened to be the only man back defending. The only one he scored where I thought "Fuck sake Richard" was the header away at Wigan in 2006/07. The rest were either "Well the striker would have scored anyway" or just freak bad luck. The one against West Brom when it just bounced off his shins past James was unbelievable. Or Newcastle when he volleyed it in from 12 yards. The own goals were rarely because he'd made a bad decision.

In the four years he won POTY he played 35, 32, 38, and 36 games in the PL. He was always there, often the guy keeping us afloat - especially in 06/07 when we surely would have gone down without him and Distin at the back. For as many own goals as he scored, he had about 10x the number of genuinely titanic performances, often in big games. The 0-0 vs Liverpool and the 1-0 over United, both in the Sven season, were the measure of the man imo.

It's worth remembering that Dunne was from the days when we just wanted our players to work hard. We knew the quality was lacking so all we wanted was battle, and Dunne had that in spades. But he did also have the leadership qualities you need in a captain when your first two thoughts going into a season are "Can we stay up?" and "Will we beat United at home?" We overachieved for a club in our state between 2003-2007 - Dunne was a big part of that.
 
I'd have to say Jack Grealish. Cost us 100 million, which is nearly 50 million more than what PSG paid for Kravatskhelia, despite not being half the footballer.

To put it into perspective, you could buy Kravatskhelia, Doue and Neves for just a little more than what we paid for Grealish. Knew at the time we should have bought cheaper (or used it on a left back/Rodri understudy) or put all of the money into Harry Kane that summer.

Despite Grealish being a good player for us in the Treble, I don't ever think he was Man City class personally. He should have stayed at Villa.
 
There's 50 pages and nobody once has mentioned Fernando that's crazy.

Fernando Reges AKA the octopus for how supposedly world class he was, in reality he was easily pressed into making mistakes and wasn't quick enough to stop attacks, despite being strong he wasn't mentally strong to resist those pressing him and let the pace of the Prem get to him.

People have rightly said Nigel De Jong who was overrated by some but Fernando was worse in every aspect and NDJ was mentally strong, I'd rank Fernando only ahead of Kalvin Phillips (but also far ahead) in defensive midfielders we've signed since the takeover.

He was brought in to help Fernandinho become the energy in our midfield instead he couldn't adequately protect the defence, prone to brain farts in big games and poor in the air he seemed to get tired without actually doing a lot, he also arrived during what should have been his peak years but mentally couldn't hack it in the Prem.

For all the stick that Javi Garcia got here and rightly so with having the pace of your average snail, he was still clearly a better suited defensive midfielder than Fernando was in his time here.
Garcia could be counted on to stay in position and keep possession plus win aerial battles helping us close out games, even if he was painfully slow and statuesque he was strong and composed knew how to help us keep the ball.

We clearly and rightly wanted to move on from slower defensive midfielders and needed someone more industrious, Fernando (The Octopus) was meant to be that on paper but he was clearly out of his depth and our weakest link in midfield during his time here.

He had some good games but not nearly enough as he should have I'm really surprised nobody has commented him he probably didn't suit our system, maybe could've done better for another Prem team one of our rivals but for me should've been moved on much quicker.

He always looked like a liability despite having a reputation as a strong tackler stopper who should've thrived with Fernandinho, he always needed someone else in there with with him to the detriment of our creativity I think Pep realised he wasn't right for us long term, genuinely I believe had we signed someone better at that time it could've been the difference in us winning even more.
 
Ethan23 said:
Celebrated like mad as well when he scored against us
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Cant stand the prick , had no affection for us after he left and was happy to score a goal that could have effectively finished us at the time. Now he's a failed manager with no income happy to free load off the club being classed as a "legend" based on one goal
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
There's 50 pages and nobody once has mentioned Fernando that's crazy.

Fernando Reges AKA the octopus for how supposedly world class he was, in reality he was easily pressed into making mistakes and wasn't quick enough to stop attacks, despite being strong he wasn't mentally strong to resist those pressing him and let the pace of the Prem get to him.

People have rightly said Nigel De Jong who was overrated by some but Fernando was worse in every aspect and NDJ was mentally strong, I'd rank Fernando only ahead of Kalvin Phillips (but also far ahead) in defensive midfielders we've signed since the takeover.

He was brought in to help Fernandinho become the energy in our midfield instead he couldn't adequately protect the defence, prone to brain farts in big games and poor in the air he seemed to get tired without actually doing a lot, he also arrived during what should have been his peak years but mentally couldn't hack it in the Prem.

For all the stick that Javi Garcia got here and rightly so with having the pace of your average snail, he was still clearly a better suited defensive midfielder than Fernando was in his time here.
Garcia could be counted on to stay in position and keep possession plus win aerial battles helping us close out games, even if he was painfully slow and statuesque he was strong and composed knew how to help us keep the ball.

We clearly and rightly wanted to move on from slower defensive midfielders and needed someone more industrious, Fernando (The Octopus) was meant to be that on paper but he was clearly out of his depth and our weakest link in midfield during his time here.

He had some good games but not nearly enough as he should have I'm really surprised nobody has commented him he probably didn't suit our system, maybe could've done better for another Prem team one of our rivals but for me should've been moved on much quicker.

He always looked like a liability despite having a reputation as a strong tackler stopper who should've thrived with Fernandinho, he always needed someone else in there with with him to the detriment of our creativity I think Pep realised he wasn't right for us long term, genuinely I believe had we signed someone better at that time it could've been the difference in us winning even more.
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Tbf it's because nobody at City rates Fernando. Think the thread is asking which player is overrated by City fans.
 
TheRubberRing said:
Someone has to rate them to be overrated!
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I think the concerning thing as you rightly point out is that our 'scouts' must have rated him. In the case of Marmoush I recall the media calling him the new Salah. In hindsight it should be the current Salah
 
Vladimir Weiss. Kept hearing how phenomenal he was technically and could go on to be one of the best but just looked utter dross, although he did have one decent season in the Scottish Prem. Essentially was probably overrated at that time, not now.
 
FinallyGoodwin said:
Vladimir Weiss. Kept hearing how phenomenal he was technically and could go on to be one of the best but just looked utter dross, although he did have one decent season in the Scottish Prem. Essentially was probably overrated at that time, not now.
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John Guidetti probably falls into the same category although he may have had a bad injury just as he was on the edge of the first team squad IIRC.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Overrated by definition = people view the ability and output higher than it actually was. I give you Georgi Kinkladze, Relegated from the premier league , couldn't stand out in the championship, failed in the farmers league at Ajax then couldn't get a game at derby county, Yet lives off one goal and most fans rate him as a Pele / Maradona level player and it was the "team he was in that was the problem" , and yes I watched him live my first season ticket was the year he joined. He was no better than Eyal Berkovic who is rated several level below him by most fans.
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As a young fan back then, especially one surrounded by rags, you had to take any small bit of good and cling onto it with all your might. I thought Kinkladze was the best player in the world. In retrospect you are probably much closer to the truth than I was.
 
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
There's 50 pages and nobody once has mentioned Fernando that's crazy.

Fernando Reges AKA the octopus for how supposedly world class he was, in reality he was easily pressed into making mistakes and wasn't quick enough to stop attacks, despite being strong he wasn't mentally strong to resist those pressing him and let the pace of the Prem get to him.

People have rightly said Nigel De Jong who was overrated by some but Fernando was worse in every aspect and NDJ was mentally strong, I'd rank Fernando only ahead of Kalvin Phillips (but also far ahead) in defensive midfielders we've signed since the takeover.

He was brought in to help Fernandinho become the energy in our midfield instead he couldn't adequately protect the defence, prone to brain farts in big games and poor in the air he seemed to get tired without actually doing a lot, he also arrived during what should have been his peak years but mentally couldn't hack it in the Prem.

For all the stick that Javi Garcia got here and rightly so with having the pace of your average snail, he was still clearly a better suited defensive midfielder than Fernando was in his time here.
Garcia could be counted on to stay in position and keep possession plus win aerial battles helping us close out games, even if he was painfully slow and statuesque he was strong and composed knew how to help us keep the ball.

We clearly and rightly wanted to move on from slower defensive midfielders and needed someone more industrious, Fernando (The Octopus) was meant to be that on paper but he was clearly out of his depth and our weakest link in midfield during his time here.

He had some good games but not nearly enough as he should have I'm really surprised nobody has commented him he probably didn't suit our system, maybe could've done better for another Prem team one of our rivals but for me should've been moved on much quicker.

He always looked like a liability despite having a reputation as a strong tackler stopper who should've thrived with Fernandinho, he always needed someone else in there with with him to the detriment of our creativity I think Pep realised he wasn't right for us long term, genuinely I believe had we signed someone better at that time it could've been the difference in us winning even more.
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Can’t help but feel that the system made players of his and Javi Garcia’s ilk look rubbish though under Pellegrini.
Kinkladze's crazy skills said:
There's 50 pages and nobody once has mentioned Fernando that's crazy.

Fernando Reges AKA the octopus for how supposedly world class he was, in reality he was easily pressed into making mistakes and wasn't quick enough to stop attacks, despite being strong he wasn't mentally strong to resist those pressing him and let the pace of the Prem get to him.

People have rightly said Nigel De Jong who was overrated by some but Fernando was worse in every aspect and NDJ was mentally strong, I'd rank Fernando only ahead of Kalvin Phillips (but also far ahead) in defensive midfielders we've signed since the takeover.

He was brought in to help Fernandinho become the energy in our midfield instead he couldn't adequately protect the defence, prone to brain farts in big games and poor in the air he seemed to get tired without actually doing a lot, he also arrived during what should have been his peak years but mentally couldn't hack it in the Prem.

For all the stick that Javi Garcia got here and rightly so with having the pace of your average snail, he was still clearly a better suited defensive midfielder than Fernando was in his time here.
Garcia could be counted on to stay in position and keep possession plus win aerial battles helping us close out games, even if he was painfully slow and statuesque he was strong and composed knew how to help us keep the ball.

We clearly and rightly wanted to move on from slower defensive midfielders and needed someone more industrious, Fernando (The Octopus) was meant to be that on paper but he was clearly out of his depth and our weakest link in midfield during his time here.

He had some good games but not nearly enough as he should have I'm really surprised nobody has commented him he probably didn't suit our system, maybe could've done better for another Prem team one of our rivals but for me should've been moved on much quicker.

He always looked like a liability despite having a reputation as a strong tackler stopper who should've thrived with Fernandinho, he always needed someone else in there with with him to the detriment of our creativity I think Pep realised he wasn't right for us long term, genuinely I believe had we signed someone better at that time it could've been the difference in us winning even more.
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Think kind of like how you say at the end there the system made him and before him Javi Garcia look worse than they probably were having to play in a two with Yaya who had a liscense to do what he want.

Fernandinho made the best of that role but it was ultimately only when Pep came in we saw the best of Fernandinho too.
 
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