A disgraceful undermining of the Ticket Points system - again

BillCarlisle said:
We have more than a hundred members in our SC Branch, probably one third of whom we never see. We normally have 40 to 50 on our matchday bus for PL games. For Cup games it's much less, in fact for the Exeter FA Cup Tie we had only 14 (yes only 14) the great majority of us being being cup scheme season ticket holders.
Now, from out of the woodwork, came many of the no-shows who were given priority for the final over most if not all of us who went to those earlier rounds. I would like to hear how the club justifies this sort of arrangement.
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Shouldn't the branch tell the no-shows they won't be getting them a ticket ?
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
It seems to be heading that way......
If we can just stick to constructive criticism of individuals / organisations rather than personal abuse please.
Thanks
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As far as I know I haven’t abused Kevin. I’m not saying you are implying that. If I have done unwittingly in one of my posts, I will apologise to Kevin.

Hopefully the club and Kevin will explain in a statement to the fans why FA Cup final tickets were issued and sold as they have been.
 
jrb said:
As far as I know I haven’t abused Kevin. I’m not saying you are implying that. If I have done unwittingly in one of my posts, I will apologise to Kevin.

Hopefully the club and Kevin will explain in a statement to the fans why FA Cup final tickets were issued and sold as they have been.
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You haven’t mate, it’s a full on cop out.

Tim was forthcoming about charitable actions yesterday (great work, nothing taken away), but didn’t respond to a very simple question that remains unanswered:

why can blues who haven’t been to any or many games this season have got a ticket / better priced ticket than blues doing the yards?
 
Blue Smarties said:
You haven’t mate, it’s a full on cop out.

Tim was forthcoming about charitable actions yesterday (great work, nothing taken away), but didn’t respond to a very simple question that remains unanswered:

why can blues who haven’t been to any or many games this season have got a ticket / better priced ticket than blues doing the yards?
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This has happened in previous threads where the OSC / Kevin Parker are mentioned. There is a legitimate question about fairness and why people without the required points are getting tickets, that no one can seemingly answer.

Then a few posters who are clearly supporters/ members of the OSC try and dilute the thread and change the conversation with unrelated posts about all the ‘good work’ the OSC do.

As above the club and Kevin need to explain what on earth is going on and show some transparency
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
This has happened in previous threads where the OSC / Kevin Parker are mentioned. There is a legitimate question about fairness and why people without the required points are getting tickets, that no one can seemingly answer.

Then a few posters who are clearly supporters/ members of the OSC try and dilute the thread and change the conversation with unrelated posts about all the ‘good work’ the OSC do.

As above the club and Kevin need to explain what on earth is going on and show some transparency
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If you literally applied the logic that ticket points were the only criteria for buying tickets then:
i) Supporters clubs couldn't organise travel until the lowest of their applicants hit the criteria to buy. So you'd effectively kill off the ability to book and travel together
ii) We'd then start on the other groups who access tickets but don't do so via ticket points (sponsors, corporates, ex players etc)

IMHO, the 'problem' is focused on this particular match. And the problem seems to be:
a) All applicants via the OSC route seem to have been successful [this is not usual - OSC's normally have some sort of process for allocating them within the OSC: in mine if you don't come to the mtgs and be an active member, then you're unlikely to get tickets]
b) That successful applicants seem to have been able to apply from Day 1 [this is not usual] - thus allowing them to access the cheaper tickets which were most in demand because of the rapacious FA pricing.

As an OSC member who values not only my club, but the whole OSC network: I think the exceptional points above in bold can be fixed without wholesale changes or the defenistration of those who lead it!
 
The anger from supporters on this thread come from the way some supporters have tried to defend what has happened, our Football Club and the OSC have allowed supporters to buy tickets for the FA Cup final before supporters who have the relivent requirement to buy. This has broken the T&C we have all, (supporters) seen, I have read most of this thread and seen how some say the points system dose not work, or everyone should go out and join the OSC, all sorts of issues to deflect from what has actually happened, personally I don't accept what has happed and nor should any other supporter. The rules of how the tickets should be distributed are well known and set buy the club, the fact that some supporters who only want to attend finals and big games by being members of the OSC is wrong. I would like to believe that supporters who are members of the OSC make it clear to there committee that it was wrong and shouldn't happen again, and the OSC and our Football Club club should apologise, sorry what has happened is wrong.
 
I for one would like to thank @cityutopia OP for opening this thread.
Without this info many city fans Season Card & on Cup Scheme holders would not be aware of OSC getting first dibs of tickets at 10am on first day of sale. Absolutely ridiculous and breaches T&Cs of the Cup Scheme. I’m “fuming”
Hopefully City Matters will get a response from the club, but like the Istanbul fiasco I’m not holding out any hope.
If you only just seen this thread, please read page 1 original poster
 
kippaxed54 said:
If you literally applied the logic that ticket points were the only criteria for buying tickets then:
i) Supporters clubs couldn't organise travel until the lowest of their applicants hit the criteria to buy. So you'd effectively kill off the ability to book and travel together
ii) We'd then start on the other groups who access tickets but don't do so via ticket points (sponsors, corporates, ex players etc)

IMHO, the 'problem' is focused on this particular match. And the problem seems to be:
a) All applicants via the OSC route seem to have been successful [this is not usual - OSC's normally have some sort of process for allocating them within the OSC: in mine if you don't come to the mtgs and be an active member, then you're unlikely to get tickets]
b) That successful applicants seem to have been able to apply from Day 1 [this is not usual] - thus allowing them to access the cheaper tickets which were most in demand because of the rapacious FA pricing.

As an OSC member who values not only my club, but the whole OSC network: I think the exceptional points above in bold can be fixed without wholesale changes or the defenistration of those who lead it!
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You realise mates can’t organise travel together until they all qualify for tickets, right? Something that OSCs circumvent.
 
No chance I'm reading all this thread.....
Apologies if already been suggested.....but could the club still let OSC get tickets at 10AM....but limit the locations proportionally per % of tickets per section. So that some OSC have to get £175 tickets, £50 tickets etc and can't just gobble up all the "best" ones.
 
mandubs said:
No chance I'm reading all this thread.....
Apologies if already been suggested.....but could the club still let OSC get tickets at 10AM....but limit the locations proportionally per % of tickets per section. So that some OSC have to get £175 tickets, £50 tickets etc and can't just gobble up all the "best" ones.
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Or they could buy through the supporters club when they qualify as season ticket holders and membership people do.
 
Gingers Dad said:
I bet that nearly everyone complaining has had a ticket somewhere, that they didn't qualify for through the points system. That they got from a mate or bought online or outside the ground.
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There is a difference between buying a ticket in this way, knowing it carries a threat of sanction from the club and the final situation where the club have allowed OSC members to purchase in the first window seemingly without any qualifying points criteria. It’s our 4th final on the trot and I don’t recall issues selling out our initial criteria for the others, so why change the system? It’s only to the benefit of OSC members?

I have over 20k points and in the cup scheme, I’m not complaining because I won’t get a ticket, I’m complaining because the change isn’t fair to the majority of fans who aren’t in OSC’s and I can’t see a sensible reason why this change has been made.
 
Just in response to a couple of people who have asked why , my take is its easier for the club.

They get to shift the bulk of tickets PDQ

I dont think its any deeper than that , not saying its right but i reckon thats it
 
RiversideBlue said:
Fuck our loyalty point system. There's currently a party of about 100 united fans in full rag gear in our souvenir shop and taking photos infront of out statues.
What ever has happened to football?
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Sadly these 100 rags would gladly pay 100s of pounds in the shop and gladly buy over the top tickets prices.
What use im I who just buys a ticket and a pint in Mary D's or the Townley ?
 
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