Emery botched up at PSG? In his two years he won plenty, including a domestic quadruple.emery messed up when coaching psg and arsenal, aston villa its his level, he botched a 4 goal advantage in the champions league ffs his thing only works in europa league. also he managed to not win the french league with psg
If we had beat Bournemouth we would still be in a title race..
I standby many of us knew before the article Pep was leaving.
Absolutely bang on !Brought a tear. It's been a week, I've slept really badly since Monday, and keep welling up. I'm an FOc girl, I know about emotion and this is painful. I feel like I did when Colin The King passed, heavy and sad.
Pep has given us a wonderful decade, I'm grateful. I'll miss him like one of my own. I just want the closure now, wait fir next seasons fixtures ( so I can rant how they stitch us up with lousy long journeys away over the festive season), how we get tough fixtures around the time of the CL ko rounds, and just forget VArsanal were gifted that title. I need a break from footy, but I know I'll keep looking on BM every day for my fix, I certainly won't be watching anything on Sly Sports or buying any papers.
Let's give Bernie and Jonny BOY and his signing cagoule a right royal send off.
Nothing lasts forever, but by god it was good when we had it.
So many memories of Pep. One of my earliest when I knew we would win the PL was Kevs incredible goal at Chelsea, September 2017. That team was something else and we are so fortunate to have witnessed a decade of pure Pep. X
I agree. I love Vinny but for me he's not world class yet. And Arteta MOST CERTAINLY isn't.Before Vinnie went to Bayern, having seen Burnley relegated, would you have had him as a 'best coach'? I was amazed he was offered that gig, but it was obviously a great call from whoever made it.
Couldn't Iraola be at that stage right now?
Pep was raging mate. And so deflated. You can read him well, you've seen it surely. All that planning and focus to keep a lid on it, gone. He obviously cares about the fans, the club, the chairman. Everyone is affected, and he knows it. The fans at the game were deflated as fuck. The whole atmosphere was a real downer. The players, whether they knew or knew what they needed to know, will have talked about it either way. But there was a collective bubble, and it was well and truly burst. Even if they did know ir, fatigued as they were, felt it. Felt the deflation, the atmosphere. Mood is contagious. Of course it affected them! I'd be worried if it didn't, they are human.It wasn’t news to Pep or the players — they already knew. If you mean everyone else finding out, these are people at the absolute top of their profession; if a news story was enough to derail them, they wouldn’t be there in the first place. Most of us didn't need the Holt article to know he was going, we had already worked it out.
Any better?
He could be surely.Before Vinnie went to Bayern, having seen Burnley relegated, would you have had him as a 'best coach'? I was amazed he was offered that gig, but it was obviously a great call from whoever made it.
Couldn't Iraola be at that stage right now?
Firstly, it wasn't news to Pep because it was his decision.
Secondly, the players clearly didn't know or it would have been in the press much sooner. Pep tells players, players tell agents, story breaks.
Thirdly, they're human beings not robots. They'll be deeply affected by that news, the same way we were and the same way the dippers were when Klopp's departure was announced.
We'll never know if it made any difference to the result, but it certainly would have been an unwelcome distraction.
You may also ask people like Pep or anybody reasonable in football industry and everybody would tell you this simple truth, that Arteta is fantastic, top class football coach.
I loved the pace of their play - it seemed that every player was looking for the chance to break, but still not at the expense of being wide open at the back.
I've always thought that a front 6 should be able to attack on their own merits, without full backs coming up just to step on each other's toes. It helped that we weren't looking to exploit any gaps they may have left, but they still looked pretty sound. Similar shots/shots on target to us the other night.
Our most lethal weapon would love to play for him, I'm sure.
Like you, I'd consider him before Maresca. How many starters does Maresca know really well, anyway?
Low and filthy - only natural that it was delivered by Holt who hasn't had a wash for the decade of Peps tenure here.Whether or not it affected the result (it did, but let's pretend it is debatable), it certainly put a real downer on the game, the atmosphere, the recent FA cup and to many the season as a whole. And that was part of the intention of the timing!
The news would always have had an emotional reaction. But it would have been between the club/Pep and us, delivered in a way they considered best, at a time they wanted, and possibly coupled with incredible last day drama, emotion and possibly even an unlikely remarkable treble.
I mean, credit where due, they played it spectacularly. But it was low and filthy.
Well, watching his team is a form of purgatory...So Mikel's the Dante of football managers.
I and many others didn't go along with it, lots of us were posting before Monday that Pep was going because he could barely keep a straight face when he said he was staying (go back and check).No one knew. People had assumed or guessed or logically deduced he was going but no one knew.
And to pick up your response to me before, that's why the leak at the time it happened will have impacted the players. They might have had a feeling he was going, but when the manager comes out and says "I've got one more year" you go along with it. The news being leaked when it did was tactical from the press and it will have had an impact.
If you didn't react to the news then fine, but I was absolutely devastated and so were all the City fans I know. We were hoping he'd do another year yet. The players might not have been as extreme as my reaction, but I'm sure they will have been talking about it, talking about Maresca and ultimately not fully focussing on the game.
I guess one of the reasons Pep hasn't been offered the opportunity to announce his own departure of the club (thanks to the British media) is because he's the manager of MCFC.Pep hasn't been sacked though, so comparing him to someone who has got the sack doesn't make sense. Klopp got to announce his departure in a cosy conference room being interviewed by a member of club staff. United announced SAF on the Wednesday before the final home game of the season. Wenger got to announce the terms of his own departure well on advance (even with it being widely speculated about). Why did we get the treatment we got with the constant questions and then the leak before one of the biggest games of the season when they didn't get their own way?
I think that's just a lazy excuse for a shit performance and it's not like it's the first time all season we have played so poorly.Pep was raging mate. And so deflated. You can read him well, you've seen it surely. All that planning and focus to keep a lid on it, gone. He obviously cares about the fans, the club, the chairman. Everyone is affected, and he knows it. The fans at the game were deflated as fuck. The whole atmosphere was a real downer. The players, whether they knew or knew what they needed to know, will have talked about it either way. But there was a collective bubble, and it was well and truly burst. Even if they did know ir, fatigued as they were, felt it. Felt the deflation, the atmosphere. Mood is contagious. Of course it affected them! I'd be worried if it didn't, they are human.
Nor sure what You mean by that, so not sure anybody said that. I said hes top football coach, but its a difference to be a generational coach like Pep etcSo Mikel's the Dante of football managers.
we are one of the biggest clubs in the world.I expect that there are people on here who will know this - maybe even somebody who has negotiated sponsorship deals for City? - but when talking to potential sponsors, surely a large part of the conversation is whether Pep will be in charge during the years of their sponshorship?
How do clubs answer this type of enquiry? It would be impossible to keep any news of his departure quiet, surely, with there probably being a United fan in every office?
I travelled a 200 mile round trip to greet him at the CFA and I'll do the same trip to pay homage to the bloke when he leaves, and there'll be plenty more like me.I don't think that many people in the greater scheme of things are going to travel that far just because the manager is leaving, regardless of how well liked he is. Apart from anything else it's all just speculation, not you, I, or anybody else knows when it's going to be announced.