Fasting Diet

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I've put on about a stone this year and want to lose it, started running a couple of times a week but I think as I enjoy food and beer a bit too much isn't having mush effect.

But I think I could do this 5:2 diet where you eat what you want 5 days of the week but only 600 calories for 2. There was an horizon programme on it and it also makes you live longer aparently.

1. Has anyone done it?
2. I've no idea how many calories in anything, if I didn't eat all day then had a proper tea would that be about right. Obviously not a kebab for tea but something healthy.
 
I've used 'leangains' intermittent fasting in the past just 'to try it' and see, I wouldn't neccesarily knock anything along those lines per se because it does have its merits and if it suits your appetite and eating habits it can work well, it's all just a way of controlling calorie intake over a daily or weekly period, which, if you're in a calorie deficit by the end, then you will lose fat/weight.

What you need to remember more than anything is that it all needs to be taken as part of a change of lifestyle and eating habits rather than see it as a 'diet', as with anything, once you revert back to old ways then you will probably start to gain weight again.
 
Never done a fasting diet, but I have lost 8lb's since the 2nd of Jan, just by cutting out all sugary drinks / sweets and just eating healthy.

Mind you, I am a fat bastard and used to eat and drink loads of crap before.
 
One of the worst thing to do as when you starve yourself at weekend your body will store fat as it won't know when it will get fed again. All you need to do is eat healthy, cut out bread and fats, use sweetener instead of sugar and eat plenty of fresh veg, fruit and lean meat. You can join slimming world on line, it's better than weight watchers, as you don't have to count anything. Just remember to drink loads of fluids, water & diet drinks not beer :), and the pounds will soon fall off. Good luck
 
blue rebel said:
One of the worst thing to do as when you starve yourself at weekend your body will store fat as it won't know when it will get fed again. All you need to do is eat healthy, cut out bread and fats, use sweetener instead of sugar and eat plenty of fresh veg, fruit and lean meat. You can join slimming world on line, it's better than weight watchers, as you don't have to count anything. Just remember to drink loads of fluids, water & diet drinks not beer :), and the pounds will soon fall off. Good luck


This is incorrect mate, but it does have merit if you're starving for weeks on end in say a third world country where the problem is plain old under-nutrition, with this type of thing then it isn't.
 
Honestly doing a 10 day master cleanse then into a juice fast for a few days I think would be better . I tried the weekend fasting before and I always seemed to make up for it on the next normal day . It doesn't work for me as I'm a stupid vegan but carb cycling is probably the best /easiest way to lose weigh fast and IMO the least shock to your body
 
Dirty Harry said:
blue rebel said:
One of the worst thing to do as when you starve yourself at weekend your body will store fat as it won't know when it will get fed again. All you need to do is eat healthy, cut out bread and fats, use sweetener instead of sugar and eat plenty of fresh veg, fruit and lean meat. You can join slimming world on line, it's better than weight watchers, as you don't have to count anything. Just remember to drink loads of fluids, water & diet drinks not beer :), and the pounds will soon fall off. Good luck


This is incorrect mate, but it does have merit if you're starving for weeks on end in say a third world country where the problem is plain old under-nutrition, with this type of thing then it isn't.

Not totally, your body gets used to being fed so depriving it is not good, you are far better eating say 5 smaller meals than 3 large meals, when you don't eat for periods, your body will store fats and sugars when you do eat. Probably just a weekend would not have much effect, but far better to lose weight in a healthy way. :)
 
Carb cycling,IME,is definitely the most effective method of weight loss/maintenance and probably the easiest to perform.

Basically keep protein level but adjust carbs and fats accordingly,using these predominantly around times of requirement - activity.

When training,i always have the bulk of my carbs at breakfast and around my workouts.I use healthy fats with other meals when my need for energy is less.

Up your intake of greens and drink plenty of herbal/black/green teas.<br /><br />-- 07 Jan 2013 18:08 --<br /><br />
blue rebel said:
Dirty Harry said:
blue rebel said:
One of the worst thing to do as when you starve yourself at weekend your body will store fat as it won't know when it will get fed again. All you need to do is eat healthy, cut out bread and fats, use sweetener instead of sugar and eat plenty of fresh veg, fruit and lean meat. You can join slimming world on line, it's better than weight watchers, as you don't have to count anything. Just remember to drink loads of fluids, water & diet drinks not beer :), and the pounds will soon fall off. Good luck


This is incorrect mate, but it does have merit if you're starving for weeks on end in say a third world country where the problem is plain old under-nutrition, with this type of thing then it isn't.

Not totally, your body gets used to being fed so depriving it is not good, you are far better eating say 5 smaller meals than 3 large meals, when you don't eat for periods, your body will store fats and sugars when you do eat. Probably just a weekend would not have much effect, but far better to lose weight in a healthy way. :)

Harry speaks with experience mate,im not saying you dont have knowledge but you would do well to listen to his wise words.
 
Just buy a bike and cycle for an hour every day it will drop off you, put a stone on when living in Cyprus bought a bike in October when back here and its dropped off me, if you like food dieting is a waste of time, exercise is the only way
 
Never been convinced by wonder diets. I was getting a bit globulous over the summer and realised it had happened purely due to unconscious 'grazing' and a significant uplift in cheese intake - I was grating piles of it on almost everything I ate.

So rather than go on a diet, I cut down on cheese and stopped buying Mars bars/crisps from the machines at work. I now take loads of satsumas to work if I'm peckish and also those Snak A Jack things which are pretty tasty and low fat.

Since the Autumn I have lost about 1 1/2 stone at around 1-2 lbs weight loss a week. No real change to my main meals, no change to ale intake (not very high anyway mind). Just being sensible really - if a diet sounds too good to be true, guess what.
 
blue rebel said:
Dirty Harry said:
blue rebel said:
One of the worst thing to do as when you starve yourself at weekend your body will store fat as it won't know when it will get fed again. All you need to do is eat healthy, cut out bread and fats, use sweetener instead of sugar and eat plenty of fresh veg, fruit and lean meat. You can join slimming world on line, it's better than weight watchers, as you don't have to count anything. Just remember to drink loads of fluids, water & diet drinks not beer :), and the pounds will soon fall off. Good luck


This is incorrect mate, but it does have merit if you're starving for weeks on end in say a third world country where the problem is plain old under-nutrition, with this type of thing then it isn't.

Not totally, your body gets used to being fed so depriving it is not good, you are far better eating say 5 smaller meals than 3 large meals, when you don't eat for periods, your body will store fats and sugars when you do eat. Probably just a weekend would not have much effect, but far better to lose weight in a healthy way. :)


No mate, and to be frank there's quite a few myths in there bud, I'm taking the dogs out for a bit but when I get back I'll get a few studies and referenced articles together if you're that interested, and you can have a read through them.

PS Cheers btw FI.
 
I think I kind of fasted, if not my calorie intake was very low. Between jan 4th and apr 1st I shifted 2st 2lb (dropped from 15st to 13st).
Mon to Fri I would be sensible and eat fruits at lunch (if anything) and vary up evening meal - salads with fish, chicken and so on. For deserts sweeter fruits, low fat yogurts and I even began buying shit like diabetic jam. Ate no chocolate or crisps whatsoever and on the odd occasion I ate bread it was always at least whole meal or seeded (max 2 slices). I also dropped to half a sweetener rather than 2 sugars in my cuppa's. I did become a little obsessive though, If the coloured indicators on suggested daily intake had more than 1 amber I wouldn't purchase.
On weekends I'd eat 'kin anything - Chinese buffets, Pizza Hut, kebabs, deep fat fried mermaids arsehole, you name it.
 
Thanks, and I will bow to your superior knowledge :0) although basically we agree that cutting the carbs and upping the protein and healthy fluids is the best way don't we ?
 
What if you cannot do exercise, how do you lose weight then

I weigh 13 stone, about 5 foot 9 so about 20pound overweight. I used to play football twice a week and run two or three times. That was until a year ago when my hip got so bad I cannot run or play football anymore.

I try to use an exercise bike four times a week but I find that boring. I don't eat shit Monday to Friday but at the weekend I have a drink and maybe a three course meal on Saturday.

I need a diet that is easy to do, I lazy when it comes to look it all up etc
 
citytill1die84 said:
I need to diet big time but just can't get my head into it. Tried Slim & save products but couldn't enjoy football because I couldn't drink. Gunna have to find another way I guess.
It's proper tough getting into the swing of things at first. I think I began drinking twice as many brews and smoking three times as many bines. I didn't cut out the weekend booze benders though. At first I began to drink like a pansy, jd and diet coke etc but a mate told me I was kidding myself as the alcohol turned to sugar so I may as well had 8 cans and so on.
Another potential weird one is that I'm sure I got mild cold turkey depression although I have since been told you get addicted to fatty sugary foods.
 
blue rebel said:
Thanks, and I will bow to your superior knowledge :0) although basically we agree that cutting the carbs and upping the protein and healthy fluids is the best way don't we ?


No probs at all BR , I take it you mean 'healthy fats' as opposed to 'healthy fluids' mate ?

Mmm well ;-), it depends, it depends on numerous factors, someone could easily have a very nutritious diet, but just too much of any/all of the basic Macro's, in which case they could lower all three, but yes, I get what you're getting at mate and I'm just being picky lol, but generally for most people (because they tend to eat too many carbs) then that is normally a prudent place to start.
 
mayo31 said:
What if you cannot do exercise, how do you lose weight then

I weigh 13 stone, about 5 foot 9 so about 20pound overweight. I used to play football twice a week and run two or three times. That was until a year ago when my hip got so bad I cannot run or play football anymore.

I try to use an exercise bike four times a week but I find that boring. I don't eat shit Monday to Friday but at the weekend I have a drink and maybe a three course meal on Saturday.

I need a diet that is easy to do, I lazy when it comes to look it all up etc

It's easily done mate, in actual fact exercise accounts for fewer calories burned than many people think or realise (obviously high end endurance/athletes aside), but you obviously have make sure you're dietary intake alone gives you that calorie deficit, for most people basing their food around plenty of fibrous veg, lean protein, pulses and EFA's will suffice with the odd treat, FI touched on carb-cycling before which is very effective too and worth reading up on.

Have you tried swimming mate ?
 
Never dieted exactly, but did go on a period of self- starvation not long back whereby I had no breakfast, no lunch and only a small tea. Though this sounds mad to me now but I was pretty down at the time and so I never really felt any urge to give up until I had reached a healthier weight. Probably lost 3/4 of a stone in about 6 weeks.
 

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