Are City fans being used against the club?

fbloke

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There are quite a few journalists on this forum and on Twitter who interact with City fans.

I have had chats with a few myself and I know that others have had too.

Most of the time it is general chit chat and 'banter' and it all seems harmless enough.

One example is Duncan Castles who I have had private conversations with and who is a poster on this very forum. He seems to me to be a very nice, genuine chap who simply likes talking about footy and footy finances.

But we also know that some of what we have discussed and posted on here and on twitter has ended up in print so I was wondering how deliberate are these journalist fan interactions?

Going back to Duncan, simply because he is prolific in talking to fans, he could quite easily use us fans to create a story for him by having off the record, private chats and stoking the fires of a certain subject within the City faithful.

If a journalist wanted, for example, to promote the idea of Jose Mourinho coming to City then a real groundswell of support for that idea could be generated by using social media.

Now I suppose we could trust in two things, the professionalism of the journalists who cover City and the common sense of fans to see through such a ploy and not help propagate a story.

But there seems a very real possibility that we City fans are being used as pawns in the development of some stories.

If Duncan Castles is indeed innocently interacting with fans, including myself, which is what I believe to be the case then good on him. However if he wanted to he could quite easily get ten or fifteen vocal blues to do his dirty work for him by spreading a rumour all across the internet.

So I do wonder if we are helping to destabilise the club without even realising it.

I am aware that some journalists wonder where certain stories come from and how they gain so much commentary online so quickly.

We only need to look at the Times' DFL story to realise that even the most professional journalists and editors can get a non-story out there so imagine what passionate and easily led fans could do with some gentle encouragement aided by social media.

It makes me wonder what damage we could be doing without realising it.
 
I wonder if anyone else would admit to being in private conversations with journalists at any time?

It can't just be me that has, can it?
 
fbloke said:
I wonder if anyone else would admit to being in private conversations with journalists at any time?

It can't just be me that has, can it?

Yes, we stay tight lipped so it's your fault (-;
 
the goats backside said:
fbloke said:
I wonder if anyone else would admit to being in private conversations with journalists at any time?

It can't just be me that has, can it?

Yes, we stay tight lipped so it's your fault (-;

Ooops!
 
fbloke said:
I wonder if anyone else would admit to being in private conversations with journalists at any time?

It can't just be me that has, can it?

It probably is only you, but no doubt Deluded of Dirker, and his ilk, will think that the journo's hang on his every word anyway.
 
fbloke said:
I wonder if anyone else would admit to being in private conversations with journalists at any time?

It can't just be me that has, can it?

It doesn't need to be a private conversation or even for them to log in.

They can just come on here, read the threads, pick up a few rumours, a feeling of dissent & make up a story to fan the flames, which I'm absolutely convinced happens regularly.

The ones who are actually interested in talking football with fans would probably be more likely to print something worthwhile instead.
 
Interesting OP

I have felt for some time that the views expressed on here could be used against the club.

For my part, whilst I have my view, I tend to keep away from the topics that might possibly hurt the club. I'm not saying I'm right but I would be horrified if I inadvertently hurt the club I love. Others would no doubt say it's our duty to speak up but I'm not so certain about being right that I would push things the way some posters are prepared to do on here.

At the end of the day I have never trusted a City regime as much as I trust our current owners and I am happy to keep my counsel.

CTID
 
there will come a point when city go on to dominate in this country and part of that will be down to a siege mentality which will develop in light of all the shite the press come out with.
 
This isn't exactly like FOX announcing Bush as president - 15 rash thoughts by blues on a football forum isn't going to destabalise a club just because a journalist writes an article about it. I think City, as a club, are quite realistic and realise papers are there to sell. The amount of shit written in the press antagonises us fans more than it will the club. However, I do think journalists are savvy and they use fans to harness inside sentiments, but there's not some national conspiracy going on.
 
I talk to castles occasionally and he knows full well I want mourinho at city. He's never ever mooted it as a possibility/probability.

I'm really not sure what you are getting at here.
 
fbloke said:
There are quite a few journalists on this forum and on Twitter who interact with City fans.

I have had chats with a few myself and I know that others have had too.

Most of the time it is general chit chat and 'banter' and it all seems harmless enough.

One example is Duncan Castles who I have had private conversations with and who is a poster on this very forum. He seems to me to be a very nice, genuine chap who simply likes talking about footy and footy finances.

But we also know that some of what we have discussed and posted on here and on twitter has ended up in print so I was wondering how deliberate are these journalist fan interactions?

Going back to Duncan, simply because he is prolific in talking to fans, he could quite easily use us fans to create a story for him by having off the record, private chats and stoking the fires of a certain subject within the City faithful.

If a journalist wanted, for example, to promote the idea of Jose Mourinho coming to City then a real groundswell of support for that idea could be generated by using social media.

Now I suppose we could trust in two things, the professionalism of the journalists who cover City and the common sense of fans to see through such a ploy and not help propagate a story.

But there seems a very real possibility that we City fans are being used as pawns in the development of some stories.

If Duncan Castles is indeed innocently interacting with fans, including myself, which is what I believe to be the case then good on him. However if he wanted to he could quite easily get ten or fifteen vocal blues to do his dirty work for him by spreading a rumour all across the internet.

So I do wonder if we are helping to destabilise the club without even realising it.

I am aware that some journalists wonder where certain stories come from and how they gain so much commentary online so quickly.

We only need to look at the Times' DFL story to realise that even the most professional journalists and editors can get a non-story out there so imagine what passionate and easily led fans could do with some gentle encouragement aided by social media.

It makes me wonder what damage we could be doing without realising it.

Some prob use this site as a benchmark in order to try and find out the mood of city supporters in general. However this site or any other site does not speak for the majority of city supporters.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I talk to castles occasionally and he knows full well I want mourinho at city. He's never ever mooted it as a possibility/probability.

I'm really not sure what you are getting at here.

Its not specific to anyone DD.

Just floating the idea that fans could be roused into doing the groundwork on a story for someone.

Perhaps it has already happened and we simply dont know it?
 
No doubt it happens, though would be nice to see it work the other way too with the club or fans posting a few well placed thoughts and views which are them picked up nationally, such as the CITC things. I think most fans woudl agree that our biggest fear wit these owners, and Thaskin, was losing our identity ala Cafdiff Redbells, but if anything it has become stronger, prouder. Think that is not highlighted enough nationally - that we City fans actually like how things are going.

Failing that, you get the pitchforks and I'll get some torches lit and meet at Fleet Street at noon.
 

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