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[cleavers]

in fact it doesn't even mean he'll actually travel with them either!

I'm glad someone pointed that out. He's asked not to travel, and they've included him in the squad, which is obviously their answer to his request. Lets see if he turns up.

 

[Blue warrior]

They did budge on Suarez (if accounts are to be believed).

It wouldn't have been much though, what did they get in the end was £65m?

 

[FanchesterCity]

No mate Liverpool rejected Barca's first bid

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/luis-suarez-agrees-join-barcelona-3802899

Almost every first bid is rejected!
Even in that article (which is purely speculative to start with) it claims Liverpool were holding out for 75m, but expected to agree a 70m fee.
When the deal was finally completed, Liverpool and Barca both claimed different fees - because both wanted to keep face.

 

[BillyShears]

I don't think it will be for peanuts,If the price goes down it won't be by much especially if Chelsea and Arsenal are part of a bidding war,They was a meeting yesterday from reports at fenway park with Henry Gordon and Warner and they are supposed to be relaxed about it and are willing to sell in january if you do not meet the £50 million valuation.

He'll have a year left on his contract next summer. And he'll be able to buy that year out under the Webster ruling. They won't half the 50 million they're asking right now.

Also they may well be relaxed, but that's because ultimately they don't give a shit about LFC or it's success on the pitch. They're in a holding pattern until the sell the club and until then as long as they're top 6/8 everything is all good. Making a point over Sterling is exactly the kind of stupidity I've come to expect from a certain kind of American.

People view the them ignoring the buy out in Suarez's contract as a master stroke. No, it was a rank stupidity (much like the way they're handling the Sterling situation). They got lucky because Suarez's people were amenable to one more year there. Had they not been the yanks would've been in court, where they would've lost, and made the kind of mess which you'd expect from clueless American owners.

 

[FanchesterCity]

It wouldn't have been much though, what did they get in the end was £65m?

Honestly can't remember, and I think people are still wondering who paid what! I think it was about 70m in the end, but not certain.
I do understand Liverpool being particularly stubborn - it's probably one of the last ways of pretend they're still powerful. If they truly think Sterling is worth 50m then fair play to them for sticking to that price (but they didn't pay Sterling like a 50m player). I don't think they believe is worth that though, I think they think it's what we will pay.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Almost every first bid is rejected!
Even in that article (which is purely speculative to start with) it claims Liverpool were holding out for 75m, but expected to agree a 70m fee.
When the deal was finally completed, Liverpool and Barca both claimed different fees - because both wanted to keep face.

So what you are saying is Liverpool gave up £5m for a guy who was banned the first 3 months of the season, on £150k a week and had just bitten a guy in the World Cup.

They are never going to budge for Sterling.

 

[BillyShears]

I'm glad someone pointed that out. He's asked not to travel, and they've included him in the squad, which is obviously their answer to his request. Lets see if he turns up.

I suspect that Liverpool REALLY don't want to take him on the tour and including him in the squad is another desperate attempt to get City to match their valuation so they can claim some sort of pathetic moral victory.

 

[moomba]

So what you are saying is Liverpool gave up £5m for a guy who was banned the first 3 months of the season, on £150k a week and had just bitten a guy in the World Cup.

They are never going to budge for Sterling.

Barcelona claim the fee was £65m FWIW. Will be interesting to see their accounts when they come out.

Why won't they budge for Sterling? I'm pretty sure they don't want him back. If we don't blink first they'll have a decision to make.

 

[FanchesterCity]

He'll have a year left on his contract next summer. And he'll be able to buy that year out under the Webster ruling. They won't half the 50 million they're asking right now.

Also they may well be relaxed, but that's because ultimately they don't give a shit about LFC or it's success on the pitch. They're in a holding pattern until the sell the club and until then as long as they're top 6/8 everything is all good. Making a point over Sterling is exactly the kind of stupidity I've come to expect from a certain kind of American.

People view the them ignoring the buy out in Suarez's contract as a master stroke. No, it was a rank stupidity (much like the way they're handling the Sterling situation). They got lucky because Suarez's people were amenable to one more year there. Had they not been the yanks would've been in court, where they would've lost, and made the kind of mess which you'd expect from clueless American owners.

Correct. By January he'll be 1/2 season from complete freedom so his value will plummet. Nobody will pay 50m mid season when they can wait 6 months and get him for free (less the cost of him buying out his contract).

 

[Blue warrior]

Honestly can't remember, and I think people are still wondering who paid what! I think it was about 70m in the end, but not certain.
I do understand Liverpool being particularly stubborn - it's probably one of the last ways of pretend they're still powerful. If they truly think Sterling is worth 50m then fair play to them for sticking to that price (but they didn't pay Sterling like a 50m player). I don't think they believe is worth that though, I think they think it's what we will pay.

Agreed, I think this QPR clause is a sticker 20 % is quite a chunk. It's all a bit of a circus now.

 

[Blue warrior]

Barcelona claim the fee was £65m FWIW. Will be interesting to see their accounts when they come out.

Why won't they budge for Sterling? I'm pretty sure they don't want him back. If we don't blink first they'll have a decision to make.

They are telling the media they will reject £40 m plus 5m in add ons that's fairly clear in my view they won't budge from 50m.

 

[Man city fan 72]

No deal then if they hold out for 50m, but they're still cutting off their nose to spite their face if you ask me.

 

[Blue warrior]

Correct. By January he'll be 1/2 season from complete freedom so his value will plummet. Nobody will pay 50m mid season when they can wait 6 months and get him for free (less the cost of him buying out his contract).

I think they're maybe of the belief the further his contract runs down our rivals might join the race to sign him hence still getting a fair whack.

 

[cleavers]

I suspect that Liverpool REALLY don't want to take him on the tour and including him in the squad is another desperate attempt to get City to match their valuation so they can claim some sort of pathetic moral victory.

Of course, but they could be testing Sterling as well, if he refuses to travel, they can start fining him, and their ex players can bring another shit storm down on him. Of course Sterling could call their bluff and go.

I would think that even if City are completely confident about getting him, then its in City's interests to get him into pre season training now, even if its with Liverpool.

 

[FanchesterCity]

They are telling the media they will reject £40 m plus 5m in add ons that's fairly clear in my view they won't budge from 50m.

They've backed themselves into a corner by being so vocal about nothing less than 50m. Admittedly that does give us a problem.
I said a couple of days ago that Liverpool need an 'out' - a way to sell but save face. That might be a 'fee not disclosed' where they can claim it's 50m and we can say it's less etc.

 

[aguero93:20]

Why don't we just bung Southampton a million to set a deadline for Monday for any outgoing transfers?

 

[malg]

If they won't budge from £50m, does anyone on here think we should walk away? I bet if we did, then their owners would be lauded, and we'd get slaughtered for leaving the player in the shit, just because we wouldn't cough up a bit more......we'll also get accused of holding a great club to ransom, and showing a lack of respect.....nailed on!

 

[Manchester_lalala]

No deal then if they hold out for 50m, but they're still cutting off their nose to spite their face if you ask me.

They're just being stubborn and trying to act like they mean business by not selling him. They will look like complete idiots for when he leaves next summer and receiving a low tribuanal fee.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Of course, but they could be testing Sterling as well, if he refuses to travel, they can start fining him, and their ex players can bring another shit storm down on him. Of course Sterling could call their bluff and go.

I would think that even if City are completely confident about getting him, then its in City's interests to get him into pre season training now, even if its with Liverpool.

Sterling can't fall into this trap. He has to play along and do everything they ask. Just keep his head down and let nature take its course.

 

[moomba]

They are telling the media they will reject £40 m plus 5m in add ons that's fairly clear in my view they won't budge from 50m.

If they would reject £40m plus £5m theres still a lot of room left between that and £50m.