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pudge said:
And given that we've tried to sign him twice then that's not by design. I imagine, again because we've tried to sign him twice, that the club were willing to do that.

It's not by choice or shrewd business.
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But if we had got him at that price, it would have cost us less anyway. Starting lower, means saving money either way.
 
Plain Speaking said:
Liverpool will be paying him a fraction of what we're offering him, plus they will deduct pay and fine him for not attending training etc.
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2 weeks max (typically, unless they get special dispensation), but yes, it was a hypothetical scenario when a negotiation is drawn out. Not many players are in the 1m a month category, and Sterling won't be close even at City). It was more the discussion of the counting double... one side is bearing the cost and the other is saving the cost.
 
This is a case of Liverpool being arrogant and greedy. They would seriously consider losing £40 million and destroy a player's career on a matter of principle? Stop it, too ridiculous for words. They don't want to sell him to City, end of. Not worth the hassle, suspect Chelsea will put in a bid this week, equal to City's and Brenda's bosses will bite their hand off. What a shit club Liverpool have become, and so up themselves.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
You don't miss out on one of your top targets for the sake of £5 million IMO.

If we were miles away from Liverpools valuation then fair enough but not when we are so close.
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Exactly, I read something from Bayern's president when he was talking about season tickets and he basically said that during a transfer negotiation, they haggle over £2m for five minutes, if that.

To me, if the player really wants to come and we really want him, £5m shouldn't be a dealbreaker.

If we want to win the Champions League, at some point we are going to have to beat the likes of Bayern and Real and Barcelona to the top players.
 
Neville Kneville said:
But if we had got him at that price, it would have cost us less anyway. Starting lower, means saving money either way.
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His wages would still be the same though. The idea we've saved "hundreds of thousands on wages" by not signing him yet is as much trying to seek a positive as a him not signing yet is people seeking a reason to "flap".
 
The dippers are just pissed that they are no longer a club capable of delivering a league title, and that their best players want to leave their club rather than stay..... this is why they are pissing in the wind and digging their heels in a situation where it will cause bigger issues for them should they not sell
 
pudge said:
And given that we've tried to sign him twice then that's not by design. I imagine, again because we've tried to sign him twice, that the club were willing to do that.

It's not by choice or shrewd business.
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If we got him for our first bid I suspect we would have been happy to pay hus wages for the last year.
 
ono said:
Exactly, I read something from Bayern's president when he was talking about season tickets and he basically said that during a transfer negotiation, they haggle over £2m for five minutes, if that.

To me, if the player really wants to come and we really want him, £5m shouldn't be a dealbreaker.

If we want to win the Champions League, at some point we are going to have to beat the likes of Bayern and Real and Barcelona to the top players.
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You are totally missing the point. 2m or 5m isn't a deal breaker if it's within your limits. You can haggle for 30 seconds over it as long as it's within your parameters.
If I go to buy a car for 20K offer 19K and the sales man says '19.5K' then I can say yes to 500 quid extra in the blink of an eye. If he asks for 20.5K ( more than the car is worth to me) then I'm not going to pay it, even if the salesman says 'oh go on, it's only 500 quid more'.

If City's limit was 45m and we offered 40, but Liverpool asked for 45, we'd do the deal their and them. 5 million quid 'more' spent in 30 seconds. No problem. Because our limit was always 45, and that 5m didn't take us over it!
If Liverpool want 5m over our limit (based on OUR calculations) then we simply won't pay it because it's bad business for us and the City team will already know what is and isn't in the allowable range!
 
moomba said:
If we got him for our first bid I suspect we would have been happy to pay hus wages for the last year.
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So we'd have saved money with the fee, that would have been great.

Not his wages like you said because we'd have been paying him those hundreds of thousands on his holidays.
 
That's what I've been saying all along Hog, scouse don't want to sell to City simple as that. Any other club offered 40m it's thank you very much and goodbye Raheem.
 
Man city fan 72 said:
That's what I've been saying all along Hog, scouse don't want to sell to City simple as that. Any other club offered 40m it's thank you very much and goodbye Raheem.
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Agree completely. I can just see Chelsea matching the bid and then off he goes to Chelsea.

Bunch of saddos the Scousers. Absolutely can't stand them. More than ever after this whole transfer saga.
 
pudge said:
His wages would still be the same though. The idea we've saved "hundreds of thousands on wages" by not signing him yet is as much trying to seek a positive as a him not signing yet is people seeking a reason to "flap".
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Yeah but a common thing on here is 'just pay the money' . If we paid the full amount immediately, it's not just the possibility of haggling them down we lose out on, it's an extre 4 6 8 weeks wages on top, for each player.

If they already have the players onside, it really saves us a lot of money if you look at it on 3 players. It makes absolute sense not to just cough up straight away.
 
Man city fan 72 said:
That's what I've been saying all along Hog, scouse don't want to sell to City simple as that. Any other club offered 40m it's thank you very much and goodbye Raheem.
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A couple of weeks ago, I'd disagree, but now, I would agree. They set out their stall and said 50m, hoping we'd cave in and pay it. But they backed themselves in to a corner at the same time, and can't be seen to come down from that now - certainly not with us.
If another club came in, they MIGHT be able to climb down for it, by painting us as the bad guys, and that the 50m was purely for us because we're such bad people. That would be their get out, and allow them to sell for less whilst saving face.

That's no to say I agree that another club will come in at the last minute - who knows.
 
If Chelsea do show their hand, which they may do the longer it drags on, then serious questions would have to be asked. This has to be wrapped up by the end of next week.
 
pudge said:
So we'd have saved money with the fee, that would have been great.

Not his wages like you said because we'd have been paying him those hundreds of thousands on his holidays.
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I'm happy for us to save money any way we can. Some wanted us to pay the asking price from day 1.

By not doing that we've already saved some money.
 
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