Refugee crisis

We have done it before we have a history of doing so, I don't have the answer to the problem I can only offer my basic humanity

understood and to a certain degree i'm quite sure all on here feel the same, we don't like seeing this but if its not refugees its those poor kids in Africa going bind when a £3 donation could return there sight, we have to look after our own first and that's priority, within 10 years its quite likely the diabetes epidemic will cripple the NHS and if that dosnt almost certainly the increasing numbers forecast for the over 65s will, i simply cant see how this country could sustain 30k people who have no contribution to the system
 
Whilst I'm very disappointed with some people on this thread, I'm also very happy with some others. Well done lads. Know who you are.
 
understood and to a certain degree i'm quite sure all on here feel the same, we don't like seeing this but if its not refugees its those poor kids in Africa going bind when a £3 donation could return there sight, we have to look after our own first and that's priority, within 10 years its quite likely the diabetes epidemic will cripple the NHS and if that dosnt almost certainly the increasing numbers forecast for the over 65s will, i simply cant see how this country could sustain 30k people who have no contribution to the system
We could easily absorb 30 thousand dispersed over the country
 
The government and the media are responsible for people not giving a fuck. Just look at channel 4 and 5 most nights, programmes taking the piss out of the poor, making out everyone in need is a scrounger. The newspapers are exactly the same.
I don't think this is any accident, blaming the poorest for all the problems and taking the focus off the greedy, money grabbing twats.
Keeps us fighting each other rather than turning against them
 
understood and to a certain degree i'm quite sure all on here feel the same, we don't like seeing this but if its not refugees its those poor kids in Africa going bind when a £3 donation could return there sight, we have to look after our own first and that's priority, within 10 years its quite likely the diabetes epidemic will cripple the NHS and if that dosnt almost certainly the increasing numbers forecast for the over 65s will, i simply cant see how this country could sustain 30k people who have no contribution to the system

We could piss 30k it's what follows that may be problematic, over the last few decades if our policy was to welcome without thought every downtrodden soul on this earth we would now be one of the downtrodden

It's okay for the moralists on here because their hypocritical words have no effect on their lifestyle

Spouting on the net and giving a couple of quid to charirty doesn't make you much less of a ****
 
'we have to look after our own first and that's priority'

try going after apple or microsoft or starbucks or (insert muti national conglomerate here) for the taxes they dont pay

that would not only pay for the slack that we take up supporting charities we shouldnt have to but fund a national living wage as well
 
understood and to a certain degree i'm quite sure all on here feel the same, we don't like seeing this but if its not refugees its those poor kids in Africa going bind when a £3 donation could return there sight, we have to look after our own first and that's priority, within 10 years its quite likely the diabetes epidemic will cripple the NHS and if that dosnt almost certainly the increasing numbers forecast for the over 65s will, i simply cant see how this country could sustain 30k people who have no contribution to the system

And what's the main cause of diabetes? Obesity. I'd say we are lucky to be in the position to get diabetes
 
So your answer to the worlds ills is to take all the poor people in the world and plant them in rich countries, and then once you have done this go
Around and take all money and possessions off people and distribute evenly across the worlds population, and then do this on a daily basis so everyone has exactly the same amount of wealth and resources

It's fun this talking bollocks lark

No that will never be anything other than a very short term answer.

My answer would be we need to start a long process of stopping wars of convenience, of stopping countries like Syria being a game of macho between the U.S. And Russia. We need our very economic system to be designed for everyone not the richest 1% in the richest countries.

We need to get out religions focused on the good they can do not how much they hate other religions. We need a media that is held accountable for what it promotes and the lies it tells.

Essentially we need to have a world where money spent on weapons and war outweighs that spent on a thousand more worthy things.

There is no simple answer , changing humanity takes decades and frankly the self interest of it rulers and much of the electorate means it won't happen.

But if you mean would I take a 0.5% drop in my standard of living and see my kids class go from 30-31 and wait ten minutes more at casualty, and the result is the next time that drowned toddler grow up to be an adult rather than lie dead on the beach then yes I would. If we start to take action to lessen at source and we help those who are escaping that's what we are talking as well.

There are also times when the issue is so serious standing around posturing whilst people die is wrong. When a house is on fire and kids are dying in an upstairs bedroom moralising that the owners should have had their wiring done better, moralising how you don't have room in your house rather than getting out the hose or ladder or running in is a moral wrong ... Simple as
 
So your answer to the worlds ills is to take all the poor people in the world and plant them in rich countries, and then once you have done this go
Around and take all money and possessions off people and distribute evenly across the worlds population, and then do this on a daily basis so everyone has exactly the same amount of wealth and resources

It's fun this talking bollocks lark
Surely you can't be serious. He never suggested taking things from other people, and never suggested a solution to the world's ills. You're talking through your arse mate.
 
'we have to look after our own first and that's priority'

try going after apple or microsoft or starbucks or (insert muti national conglomerate here) for the taxes they dont pay

that would not only pay for the slack that we take up supporting charities we shouldnt have to but fund a national living wage as well
No that will never be anything other than a very short term answer.

My answer would be we need to start a long process of stopping wars of convenience, of stopping countries like Syria being a game of macho between the U.S. And Russia. We need our very economic system to be designed for everyone not the richest 1% in the richest countries.

We need to get out religions focused on the good they can do not how much they hate other religions. We need a media that is held accountable for what it promotes and the lies it tells.

Essentially we need to have a world where money spent on weapons and war outweighs that spent on a thousand more worthy things.

There is no simple answer , changing humanity takes decades and frankly the self interest of it rulers and much of the electorate means it won't happen.

But if you mean would I take a 0.5% drop in my standard of living and see my kids class go from 30-31 and wait ten minutes more at casualty, and the result is the next time that drowned toddler grow up to be an adult rather than lie dead on the beach then yes I would. If we start to take action to lessen at source and we help those who are escaping that's what we are talking as well.

There are also times when the issue is so serious standing around posturing whilst people die is wrong. When a house is on fire and kids are dying in an upstairs bedroom moralising that the owners should have had their wiring done better, moralising how you don't have room in your house rather than getting out the hose or ladder or running in is a moral wrong ... Simple as

We had nothing to do with this lads death, and you would give up a whole 0.5 % of your wages? That's big of you, tremendous sacrifice, if I earn 0.5% less than you I guess I get a pass?
 
It is a horrible horrible situation

What an horrible ordeal for a child

Although I do agree with Cameron and his stance

We just can't keep accepting large numbers of people into our country
 

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