Leroy Sané

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why ? maybe he sees kelechi is getting so much game time and wants to come !
 
This kid has great talent & indeed impressed so much that he looked as good as our impressive kids looked many times in the same competition, then gets games in the first team, now is sought after & perhaps we will buy him. We buy Patrick Roberts, another who impressed vs us, in a game full of impressive City players & stick him on potato peeling duty.

Kids who impress just as much but with a City shirt on, off to Barnsley or Rotherham. Another kid who looked possibly as good as our own kids, is Jerome Sinclair who we are rumoured to be pinching from Liverpool.

I wonder how much we would pay for Denayer if he'd played against us for someone like Anderlecht, or Brandon Barker if he'd ripped us a new arsehole playing for Celtic or Leicester, like he's done to so many of our opponents whilst playing for us.

What the fuck, is going on ?
 
Neville Kneville said:
This kid has great talent & indeed impressed so much that he looked as good as our impressive kids looked many times in the same competition, then gets games in the first team, now is sought after & perhaps we will buy him. We buy Patrick Roberts, another who impressed vs us, in a game full of impressive City players & stick him on potato peeling duty.

Kids who impress just as much but with a City shirt on, off to Barnsley or Rotherham. Another kid who looked possibly as good as our own kids, is Jerome Sinclair who we are rumoured to be pinching from Liverpool.

I wonder how much we would pay for Denayer if he'd played against us for someone like Anderlecht, or Brandon Barker if he'd ripped us a new arsehole playing for Celtic or Leicester, like he's done to so many of our opponents whilst playing for us.

What the fuck, is going on ?
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I know you want the youth players to come through but you cannot seriously be comparing Patrick Roberts and his occasional game in the Champinship, or Brandon Barker and his good performances in the FA youth cup to a kid who's been playing in the Bundesliga & Champions League for 3 years and has been called up for the German National team?

No one could surely be that fucking stupid. Roberts and Barker can't even get into Englands u21s.
 
domalino said:
I know you want the youth players to come through but you cannot seriously be comparing Patrick Roberts and his occasional game in the Champinship, or Brandon Barker and his good performances in the FA youth cup to a kid who's been playing in the Bundesliga & Champions League for 3 years and has been called up for the German National team?

No one could surely be that fucking stupid.
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It's a sound enough point. Which you've misunderstood.

These big money young players have become what they have because they were trusted at their clubs, they showed early promise and ability, their clubs have given them senior football and they've developed into the players they have as a result.

We haven't done that under Manuel, at all.

Denayer is a prime example. Kelechi also.

It's not about directly comparing players as they stand at present, but wondering what our youngsters could achieve here should we place trust in them the way other clubs have their young talents.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
It's a sound enough point. Which you've misunderstood.

These big money young players have become what they have because they were trusted at their clubs, they showed early promise and ability, their clubs have given them senior football and they've developed into the players they have as a result.

We haven't done that under Manuel, at all.

Denayer is a prime example. Kelechi also.

It's not about directly comparing players as they stand at present, but wondering what our youngsters could achieve here should we place trust in them the way other clubs have their young talents.
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Those kids train with the first team every day. Clearly they don't impress the staff who watch them play enough to actually make him think they can do a job yet.

The club's policy on youth is well established. Khaldoon said it in his interview and Kompany said it on the Sky Sports CFA special. They want to bring through kids but not at the expense of the first team.
 
domalino said:
I know you want the youth players to come through but you cannot seriously be comparing Patrick Roberts and his occasional game in the Champinship, or Brandon Barker and his good performances in the FA youth cup to a kid who's been playing in the Bundesliga & Champions League for 3 years and has been called up for the German National team?

No one could surely be that fucking stupid. Roberts and Barker can't even get into Englands u21s.
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I'm comparing several kids who are brilliant prospects, one of which has been fast tracked, given a chance & played regular football with top players, whilst the others play in unseen games & lately play no football whatsoever at any level, with any level of player, just sit on their arses stagnating whilst another kid gets 18 months of adult football. Surely nobody can be that fucking stupid to think that these players have any chance in Hell of progressing at the same pace under those circumstances ?

And have a look at Barker's last game for the England U20s which is the level he currently plays at. Lets see which players from that team go to U21 level first. My guess is that it will be those players whose clubs actually use them as footballers, whilst Barker who is probably better than all of them, remains unknown
 
domalino said:
Those kids train with the first team every day. Clearly they don't impress the staff who watch them play enough to actually make him think they can do a job yet.

The club's policy on youth is well established. Khaldoon said it in his interview and Kompany said it on the Sky Sports CFA special. They want to bring through kids but not at the expense of the first team.
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Same ol mantra.

Nbody ever brings through kids 'at the expense of the first team' at any level anywhere. Sane went from playing v our kids, to playing v Real Madrid, scored & played a blinder. Our kids watched on tv, hoping for 5 mins in a fucking League Cup game, which never came. He's going forwards, fast. They are going nowhere.

That's the difference.
 
hopefully wait until summer, don't want MP to coach that fast countering out of the lad.
 
domalino said:
Those kids train with the first team every day. Clearly they don't impress the staff who watch them play enough to actually make him think they can do a job yet.

The club's policy on youth is well established. Khaldoon said it in his interview and Kompany said it on the Sky Sports CFA special. They want to bring through kids but not at the expense of the first team.
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The club's policy is well established, but so is Manuel's, he doesn't give a toss.

Manuel has the final say on whether or not a kid gets a shot, be that a Denayer or a Kelechi, there could be staff at the club who deem them good enough but Manuel's cautiousness with youth stands in the way.

I'm adamant that both those players could play a bigger role in the squad (that Denayer has no role at all is criminal IMO) than they do currently, without adversely effecting our results. There's an argument we'd in fact be better for it.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
The club's policy is well established, but so is Manuel's, he doesn't give a toss.

Manuel has the final say on whether or not a kid gets a shot, be that a Denayer or a Kelechi, there could be staff at the club who deem them good enough but Manuel's cautiousness with youth stands in the way.

I'm adamant that both those players could play a bigger role in the squad (that Denayer has no role at all is criminal IMO) than they do currently, without adversely effecting our results. There's an argument we'd in fact be better for it.
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You'd rather Denayer got Demichelis' incredibly limited game time rather than play for Galatasaray every week (when he's fit)?

Have you considered Denayer himself might not be happy with Demichelis' role? 35 year olds are much happier on the bench.
 
sam-caddick said:
I would be very surprised if we loaned him back having pages the reported £40m for him.
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Why not?

This transfer isn't one for immediate impacts - he's only 19 afterall.

Doing the deal now means we nail down the player before he gets wider acclaim and costs even more, especially with the Euro's this year. Not to mention come the summer and the new TV deal, transfer prices will inevitably make another jump.
 
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