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MarkumCity said:
The £30 charge is probably designed to make new customers think fuck me £12/ mth is good value.

May's £12 buys you Canelo Khan and Wilder Povetkin
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I always baulked on Sky as the monthly price was also greeted with a registration free that I refused to pay.

Now with Virgin, and £11 w/no registration fee! Signed up for Golovkin fight and get Hughie Fury(never seen him fight so want to see if he's any good), Wilder, and Canelo Khan and repeats of fights I've missed overseas especially. If the month is good I might keep it it on for Klit/Fury
 
Adidas Sharston said:
Good article by Matt Christie in this weeks BN regarding opponents & GGG.
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I can't get their stuff online, what's the gist of it ?

I'm not sure how long GGG can wait for Canelo. Mate of mine suggested Lara as a potential opponent. I'd completely forgotten about him but if he could be persuaded to go to 160 then if GGG demolishes him the contrast between that and Canelo's laboured split decision might heighten the clamour for those two to fight
 
MarkumCity said:
Makes me laugh all this stuff about the ring and the wraps. The house fighter will always seek to gain an advantage on any card. There are stipulated limits on how much padding there can be underneath the canvas just as there are limits on how big the ring can be. If a fighter suspects that the other side has exceeded those limits his team raises it with the sanctioning body and they deal with it. Naturally each team are gonna try and push things as far as they can - what's wrong with that.
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....or even so far that such extremes have never been seen before....would be another way of describing it...

Does make you wonder why the klitsh klan never told Lewis to shut the fuck and stick with their obvious over padded floor...did they need the gypsy that bad to allow him to dictate, of course if they were bang to rights that would explain their reversal....whatever the truth was the non Fury loving lewis was'nt made to laugh alot
 
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Ric said:
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Embrace the crowd, win the battle..

Hope he smashes the homophobic, thick ****
 
Metalartin said:
Having the advantage of choosing what gloves are used or what ring is used is just that... an advantage if that's how they prefer to have things and do their best work with(Shall we bring home crowds into too which can give a fighter an extra gear and sometimes lead to home town decisions? They have to prepare for these things) but is it cheating? No sorry not for me, these things are agreed on before a fight by any good team which Team Fury clearly is.
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You seem to be getting a case together set around the choice of gloves, that's a good slight of hand (forgive me) but i think you'll find the Furys shout was born out of the unseen wrapping..you really must have a fairer approach to the furys...it's no wonder they're shouting for some balance in their evaluation, folk making their own truth up for em after they've clearly (and loudly) stated their case could be seen to be a teeny weeny bit bent...
 
Fat Chance said:
You seem to be getting a case together set around the choice of gloves, that's a good slight of hand (forgive me) but i think you'll find the Furys shout was born out of the unseen wrapping..you really must have a fairer approach to the furys...it's no wonder they're shouting for some balance in their evaluation, folk making their own truth up for em after they've clearly (and loudly) stated their case could be seen to be a teeny weeny bit bent...
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I'd maybe be more inclined to listen to you, if Fury wasnt a daft homophobic rag ****.
 
Fat Chance said:
....or even so far that such extremes have never been seen before....would be another way of describing it...

Does make you wonder why the klitsh klan never told Lewis to shut the fuck and stick with their obvious over padded floor...did they need the gypsy that bad to allow him to dictate, of course if they were bang to rights that would explain their reversal....whatever the truth was the non Fury loving lewis was'nt made to laugh alot
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You seriously reckon it's never happened to such an extreme before ? Cmon man it happens all the time it's just that it's not usually highlighted by 24/7 coverage on a sports news channel that have a PPV to sell.

Your definition of cheating may be a bit too draconian. Anything that slightly contravenes rules is cheating but it's not black or white it's shades of grey. I'm a Fury fan, don't get me wrong - some of the pussies on this thread bleating on about homophobia should wind their fucking necks in - but even though I'm a fan I have to acknowledge that technically he cheated in for example the Cunningham bout.

Cheating to gain an unfair advantage is part and parcel of sport. Going to the extremes that say Margarito did is indefensible. Trying to make the canvas spongier is equivalent to preparing a cricket pitch to suit spinners if Shane Warne's in your team.
 
i fancy Klitschko to knock fury out, hell be training like he's never trained before and judging by furys body yesterday he doesn't give a shit. £20 on is £75 back easy money. Ive seen fury hit the canvas a couple of times aswell.
 
MarkumCity said:
You seriously reckon it's never happened to such an extreme before ? Cmon man it happens all the time it's just that it's not usually highlighted by 24/7 coverage on a sports news channel that have a PPV to sell.

Pardon me Mark i perhaps did'nt articulate me words clearly enuf...it was'nt me who reckoned it had never been seen before (afterall like you i was'nt there) but a world champion at the weight..i'd be very suprised if he was lieing


Cheating to gain an unfair advantage is part and parcel of sport. Going to the extremes that say Margarito did is indefensible. Trying to make the canvas spongier is equivalent to preparing a cricket pitch to suit spinners if Shane Warne's in your team.
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Would such a pitch be dangerous to a batsmans health..
 
Listen man we all have big respect for Lennox or any boxer for that matter but Lennox had his media hat on that day and may possibly have been encouraged by his producer to exaggerate the seriousness of that situation to increase interest in the fight. Or he may simply not have encountered it before - doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Some boxers follow boxing like the bible when they're done, some take no interest at all.

Is a spongier canvas dangerous to a boxer's health ? No i don't think it is.
 
MarkumCity said:
Listen man we all have big respect for Lennox or any boxer for that matter but Lennox had his media hat on that day and may possibly have been encouraged by his producer to exaggerate the seriousness of that situation to increase interest in the fight. Or he may simply not have encountered it before - doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Some boxers follow boxing like the bible when they're done, some take no interest at all.
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'Listen man'....innabit r kid

'Somebodies going tits up'...LL
 
You're bringing nothing new to the discussion. Just a totally blinkered focus on minutiae.

Are you the Irish girl at the presser ?
 
Fat Chance said:
You seem to be getting a case together set around the choice of gloves, that's a good slight of hand (forgive me) but i think you'll find the Furys shout was born out of the unseen wrapping..you really must have a fairer approach to the furys...it's no wonder they're shouting for some balance in their evaluation, folk making their own truth up for em after they've clearly (and loudly) stated their case could be seen to be a teeny weeny bit bent...
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If the wraps had anything to it you'd have a point but I don't think this is the case and we have no proof of it, as for the ring we will have to agree to disagree mountain over molehill springs to mind(insert passive aggressive remark here). They both share the same canvas, you are making out like one fighter is gaining a massive unfair advantage(there's all sorts of advantages that can be gained anyone who knows the sport even a little bit will have noticed some, I just mentioned a few and you focused on the gloves as a weak strawman for yourself), which dodgy wraps would be(that's cheating plain and simple)... I'll say it again it's not cheating as long as the officials checked it and deemed it safe/above board, their team can check it too if it's going to affect them too much and ask for it to be changed as was agreed. This could have been done in any of his previous fights without much fuss, I credited his team quite clearly for that also, I've not got alot against the Fury's certainly not a hater just found it poor form and I imagine he'd be crying bloody murder if someone went after his rep like this claiming it's just because he's a traveler... he's a bit of a crybully at times for me I much prefer his interviews with Kugan.
 
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Fat Chance said:
'Listen man'....innabit r kid

'Somebodies going tits up'...LL
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Erm you do realise the canvas is loose since they are still finishing preparing it behind him and it's the only reason he trips? I hope you weren't thinking it proves your point or something.
 
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Metalartin said:
If the wraps had anything to it you'd have a point but I don't think this is the case and we have no proof of it, as the for the ring we will have to agree to disagree mountain over molehill springs to mind(insert passive aggressive remark here). They both share the same canvas, you are making out like one fighter is gaining a massive unfair advantage, which dodgy wraps would be(that's cheating plain and simple)... I'll say it again it's not cheating as long as the officials checked it and deemed it safe/above board, their team can check it too if it's going to affect them too much and ask for it to be changed as was agreed.
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Mountains and Molehills never sounded so apt, yeah..there was the little incident with regard to purposefully giving Tyson a set of gloves too small for him but that was after the secret taping caper not before...i think someone cleverer than me would tell you the clever long name for this technique of making a subliminal joke out of theglovegate incident when your caught out...matters not that the correct terminology escapes me, it only matters that it was after the furys cried foul to secret wrapping.

One thing is an absolute certainty...Fury said fuck the slumberland flooring off and robot bollox wont be landing a glove on me..did'nt say it afterwards...oh no, oh no yoko oh no...said it before hand....when clay used to say similar he was some kind of prophet (and some kind of laugh along comedian when he was knocking fuck out of a mock frazier gorilla). I'd expect...and it's only a guess..Vlad would have preferred the spungy bob flooring looking at his movement and it's simply unfortunate for him that somebody unbeknowns to him was carpet laying such a floor to suit his requirments and the gypsys independent of lenny vocalised their disbelief that a professional fighter would/could be happy with such a set-up. so near and yet so far.
 
Metalartin said:
Erm you do realise the canvas is loose since they are still finishing preparing it behind him and it's the only reason he trips? I hope you weren't thinking it proves your point or something.
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Yeah i do realise that Metal...do you think lenny realised that or he was taking a backhander jumping up and down saying WOW...forgive me for being a touch previous but i'd guess you've never been paid monies to enter a square ring before have ya?

Talking to a kid in gym early this year when he started bawling at two lads having a grapple 'get them off you klitsko ****', i asked him what he meant and he explained that the giulty face grappler had snided a pair of sticky footed approach shoes into the gym for the 3rd time this year....minutiae....apparently it matters greatly.
 
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