My God, we lost 1-0 in the champions league semi final can people get a grip. We've got progressively worse under Pelle and some of our players are looking old. But how many players have been rested when needed, how many of the players are confused by our tactics and/or coaching, sure we a couple past it (yaya, mdm) we have one who may never play regularly again (Vinny) and two or three who are squad players at best unless we drastically change our style. But this is about evolution not revolution. Most of our squad is good enough, with a better manager I still think we would have walked the league this season.
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End of an Era
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ZZmaestro
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This, the Barca team that Pep took over that had big names used badly but he'll actually have a bit of a blank slate this summer.
It's fairly likely that Yaya, who is as much a symptom of our problems as cause, is gone. Fernando, Demichelis, Kolarov, Zabaleta, Bony and possibly Mangala all probably gone. Navas, no idea whether he stays or goes.
Leaves a core of Hart, Sagna, Clichy, Kompany, Otamendi, Delph, Fernandinho, Nasri, de Bruyne, Sterling, Kun and Iheanacho.
Needs serious attention to midfield and defence, new sub keeper, another forward/ wide player and a few kids to be given chances. Thinking denayer, Garcia x 2, Byrne, Angelino, celina and in time Brahim.
Essentially need to replace our midfield and find some leaders. Last night we desperately missed Kompany's leadership. An increased work rate would make an enormous difference.
I tend to think that Kompany and Delph won't be part of our squad spine cometh summer too.
Our captain seems permanently crippled, there is no way in earth Pep would build a back four including him.
Delph isn't good enough to shoehorn him into a Pep system.
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And we replaced them with nando , ota, mangala, navas ,sterling and aging Sagna.Rewriting history?
Players signed for 12/13 season
Rodwell, Sinclair, Maicon, Javi Garcia, Nastasic.
Soriano started work September 2012 and Txiki October 2012 so were not responsible for that putrid rabble.
purplenose
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Its is the end of an era, one which many have said should really have been prepared for before now. In reality I think that to a degree we have been in waiting for Pep since Pellers was appointed and to some degree there have been constraints until he came.
The problem now is that Pep has a bigger rebuilding job than was perhaps envisaged and I have some doubts as to whether our support has the patience required for him to do that job in the time it will take.
I think next season will be a tough one and would be suprised if it turns out to even be as successful as this one, a price that may need to be paid whilst the new manager puts the pieces in place to take us to that next level. I dont think the expectation of what he will achieve is to over the top, but the time it will take may well not meet the timetable the less realistic of our fans subscribe too.
The problem now is that Pep has a bigger rebuilding job than was perhaps envisaged and I have some doubts as to whether our support has the patience required for him to do that job in the time it will take.
I think next season will be a tough one and would be suprised if it turns out to even be as successful as this one, a price that may need to be paid whilst the new manager puts the pieces in place to take us to that next level. I dont think the expectation of what he will achieve is to over the top, but the time it will take may well not meet the timetable the less realistic of our fans subscribe too.
Yeah, it really feels like the end of an era.
They will all leave as legends to me. Yaya, Zabaleta, Kolarov. Maybe even guys like Silva and Fernandinho will leave too.
Sure they've had some bad times, but they've had some unbelievable times and are all a huge part of the success we've had the last few years.
Two league titles, FA Cup, two League Cups, five seasons in the Champions League including a semi final. Absolutely phenomenal stuff when we step back and look at it all.
They will all leave as legends to me. Yaya, Zabaleta, Kolarov. Maybe even guys like Silva and Fernandinho will leave too.
Sure they've had some bad times, but they've had some unbelievable times and are all a huge part of the success we've had the last few years.
Two league titles, FA Cup, two League Cups, five seasons in the Champions League including a semi final. Absolutely phenomenal stuff when we step back and look at it all.
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End of Pellegrini. The era goes on.
Metalartin
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That's exactly why we weren't able to strengthen as much as we wanted, with FFP looming over us they made sure we were able to only bring in a few big stars a season. As long as we qualify we are in a better position now, Peps here, Semi Finals this year... everyone knows City now and are used to seeing them in the Champions League more than ever. We should start getting better scouts though IMO why haven't we found people like Bayern did with Costa?Other teams will know we are desperate now, we are going to get well and truly bent over in the transfer window. Should of started forming this new era 2 years ago
The first 4 months was good but after that it was turgid side to side and backwards shiteTo be fair to Txiki and Soriano, since they arrived we've won 3 trophies including a league and cup double, reached a CL semi final, played the best football I have ever seen City play in Pellegrini's first season, oversaw a stadium expansion and the creation of the CFA, made us a self sustainable club and persuaded the most sought after coach in world football to come to our club. Not too shabby if you ask me.
The last two seasons have felt like a massive under achievement but when Pep arrives is when I think we will really start to see what they've been working towards for the last few years.
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Rememember when Mancini said after the winning title that every big club needs to add one or two top class players but than came the Barca boys .
Absolutely. Every so-called “great” team has always topped up their squad by bringing in one or two stellar signings. Signings that would take the already winning formula forwards. Liverpool did it seamlessly in the late 70s and 80s: Keegan, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Aldridge, Houghton. Then that **** over the road did likewise.
And we didn’t learn a bean from that. We had the chance to become THE leading, dominant team in England, to pile up the league titles and cups. Yet we’ve had three out of the last five seasons whan we’ve come absolutely nowehere near title winning form. We had Croesus spending power. And bought the likes of Maicon, Rodwell and Sinclair. Our front 4 under Mancini: Sergio, Tevez, Mario and Edin. And now? Sergio, Kelechi (but rarely) and…Bony. Nobody can tell me that’s a team getting stronger.
We had our chance to dig “their” footballing grave. And we forgot to pack our shovels.
Absolutely. Every so-called “great” team has always topped up their squad by bringing in one or two stellar signings. Signings that would take the already winning formula forwards. Liverpool did it seamlessly in the late 70s and 80s: Keegan, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Aldridge, Houghton. Then that **** over the road did likewise.
And we didn’t learn a bean from that. We had the chance to become THE leading, dominant team in England, to pile up the league titles and cups. Yet we’ve had three out of the last five seasons whan we’ve come absolutely nowehere near title winning form. We had Croesus spending power. And bought the likes of Maicon, Rodwell and Sinclair. Our front 4 under Mancini: Sergio, Tevez, Mario and Edin. And now? Sergio, Kelechi (but rarely) and…Bony. Nobody can tell me that’s a team getting stronger.
We had our chance to dig “their” footballing grave. And we forgot to pack our shovels.
Absolutely. Every so-called “great” team has always topped up their squad by bringing in one or two stellar signings. Signings that would take the already winning formula forwards. Liverpool did it seamlessly in the late 70s and 80s: Keegan, Dalglish, Rush, Barnes, Aldridge, Houghton. Then that **** over the road did likewise.
And we didn’t learn a bean from that. We had the chance to become THE leading, dominant team in England, to pile up the league titles and cups. Yet we’ve had three out of the last five seasons whan we’ve come absolutely nowehere near title winning form. We had Croesus spending power. And bought the likes of Maicon, Rodwell and Sinclair. Our front 4 under Mancini: Sergio, Tevez, Mario and Edin. And now? Sergio, Kelechi (but rarely) and…Bony. Nobody can tell me that’s a team getting stronger.
We had our chance to dig “their” footballing grave. And we forgot to pack our shovels.
I heard on the radio a little time back that James Milner had a very good match tonight, for Liverpool. How come he left, aged 29 (I think)? Can't face the possibility - which could happen - of Liverpool (via the Europa Cup) and Man Utd. in 4th spot, getting into the CL and we don't.... grrrr
Its not lost on any of us that assuming other results don't go our way at West Ham and Norwich that
Silva, Zabba, VK and a spent force that was yaya won't be avaialble for the game that will probably determine if we make Chumps League or Europa League next season.
In truth all of them have had terrible seasons by previous standards but have served us well in the past and its time to change the guard.
Toure and PZ will be moved on over the summer , VK replaced as captain and the jury is out on Silva.
I think VK and Silva will still be with us for next season at least but its not impossible that all four have played their last games for us.
Exiting times ahead as we move into the transition that won't be all things rosy overnght and should have taken place at least two seasons ago but better late than never as they say.
Well done Zabba and yaya all the best as your near retirement and for your post football life.
Silva, Zabba, VK and a spent force that was yaya won't be avaialble for the game that will probably determine if we make Chumps League or Europa League next season.
In truth all of them have had terrible seasons by previous standards but have served us well in the past and its time to change the guard.
Toure and PZ will be moved on over the summer , VK replaced as captain and the jury is out on Silva.
I think VK and Silva will still be with us for next season at least but its not impossible that all four have played their last games for us.
Exiting times ahead as we move into the transition that won't be all things rosy overnght and should have taken place at least two seasons ago but better late than never as they say.
Well done Zabba and yaya all the best as your near retirement and for your post football life.
Wilf Wild 1937
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Sunday will be sad with so many players who have been key to our recent success saying their goodbyes.
On the bright side whilst it's the end of an era for this,our best ever, team it's only the first great team of the Sheikh Mansour era.
We'll have other great teams and some will be even better than this one.
On the bright side whilst it's the end of an era for this,our best ever, team it's only the first great team of the Sheikh Mansour era.
We'll have other great teams and some will be even better than this one.
Sunday will be sad with so many players who have been key to our recent success saying their goodbyes.
On the bright side whilst it's the end of an era for this,our best ever, team it's only the first great team of the Sheikh Mansour era.
We'll have other great teams and some will be even better than this one.
I am sure we will.
bad planning, unbalance squad.
this is the team when player like Silva, Nasri, Delph, Dinho and KDB needs to play out wide.
too many old player, while young player hardly get their chance.
no real team work, depend heavily on individual brilliance to win.
lack of leadership in the team, plus inept manager.
can't wait to see what Pep will bring to this club. hope big change coming.
this is the team when player like Silva, Nasri, Delph, Dinho and KDB needs to play out wide.
too many old player, while young player hardly get their chance.
no real team work, depend heavily on individual brilliance to win.
lack of leadership in the team, plus inept manager.
can't wait to see what Pep will bring to this club. hope big change coming.
Dirty Harry
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Unfortunately, if we want the sustained success that the owners want, there can't be an 'era' - we need to keep constantly and consistently refreshed, be it with decent signings or developed youth products.
I think this is spot-on, I hate to say this, but this was an area baconface excelled, lost count the amount of times he let players go, very good players, players we saw as major cogs and a 'massive' blow to lose, we thought that would be the end, it wasn't, not for a long time, it was only the last couple of years he stopped doing this and going for the quick fix, we need to learn from that.
I don't disagree that the midfield will need sorting, but he will have to look at how we currently attack, with everyone seemingly not willing to get in the box.
We need a plan b if it aint working
so predictable
flat track bullies beating poor teams. Good teams have sussed us out
they just keep shape work harder(not difficult) and pick up on the defensive disasters
I think this is spot-on, I hate to say this, but this was an area baconface excelled, lost count the amount of times he let players go, very good players, players we saw as major cogs and a 'massive' blow to lose, we thought that would be the end, it wasn't, not for a long time, it was only the last couple of years he stopped doing this and going for the quick fix, we need to learn from that.
Yea. That bastard in his pomp knew when it was time to cash a player in. A well managed club should always be looking at players like Silva, Nasri, Navas and Fernandinho and calculating whether it's time for them to either make way for younger players or time to sell on for a huge fee to reinvest in younger players.
mosssideblue
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We need a plan b if it aint working
so predictable
flat track bullies beating poor teams. Good teams have sussed us out
they just keep shape work harder(not difficult) and pick up on the defensive disasters[/QUOTE
Since we lost Negredo, we seem to lack a direct approach
We will get there, it's still early daysYea. That bastard in his pomp knew when it was time to cash a player in. A well managed club should always be looking at players like Silva, Nasri, Navas and Fernandinho and calculating whether it's time for them to either make way for younger players or time to sell on for a huge fee to reinvest in younger players.
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On the bright side whilst it's the end of an era for this,our best ever, team it's only the first great team of the Sheikh Mansour era.
We'll have other great teams and some will be even better than this one.
I like these sentences.