Renato Sanches

Ajm1985 said:
How the hell do other teams get deals like that done so quickly?
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They just pay whatever the selling club demands. It's not hard, it's just expensive, but if you are in the financial and squad position that Bayern are in they can afford to do it. They know that their squad is already outstanding an no real surgery is needed, so they can afford to just look for one or two players who they think can improve it and pay whatever it takes to get them.

We aren't anywhere near that position yet as every year our squad has been in need of serious maintenance and upkeep just to even try and stay at the same level. Once we've got a young core of players at a level that is required then we can start to do business like this, but until then there will always be a lot of patching up of the squad to do.
 
BigOscar said:
They just pay whatever the selling club demands. It's not hard, it's just expensive, but if you are in the financial and squad position that Bayern are in they can afford to do it. They know that their squad is already outstanding an no real surgery is needed, so they can afford to just look for one or two players who they think can improve it and pay whatever it takes to get them.

We aren't anywhere near that position yet as every year our squad has been in need of serious maintenance and upkeep just to even try and stay at the same level. Once we've got a young core of players at a level that is required then we can start to do business like this, but until then there will always be a lot of patching up of the squad to do.
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as compared to
Wolfsburg DoF 1 May "pay what we want"
Txiki "no"

Wolfsburg DoF 1 June "pay what we want"
Txiki "no"

Wolfsburg DoF 1 July "pay what we want"
Txiki "no"

Wolfsburg DoF 5 games into season "pay what we want"
Txiki "ok fine"
 
BigOscar said:
They just pay whatever the selling club demands. It's not hard, it's just expensive, but if you are in the financial and squad position that Bayern are in they can afford to do it. They know that their squad is already outstanding an no real surgery is needed, so they can afford to just look for one or two players who they think can improve it and pay whatever it takes to get them.

We aren't anywhere near that position yet as every year our squad has been in need of serious maintenance and upkeep just to even try and stay at the same level. Once we've got a young core of players at a level that is required then we can start to do business like this, but until then there will always be a lot of patching up of the squad to do.
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True, but even when all parties are willing, we seem to take our time whereas Bayern are swifter than any other teams. They make normal transfers as if it's deadline day.
 
Ajm1985 said:
True, but even when all parties are willing, we seem to take our time whereas Bayern are swifter than any other teams. They make normal transfers as if it's deadline day.
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Because they know they don't have to sort anything else out. They aren't looking at needing 5 players for £150m and having to try and balance that out, they just have to decide whether or not this is the player they want. Also, Benfica and Mendes have been making it abundantly clear how much Renato Sanches would cost for months now, it was really just a matter of agreeing to the deal the rags have been negotiating for a comically long time. Poor Ed Woodward won't get the credit for doing all the negotiating in the deal unfortunately
 
He cost 28 million Pound + add ons

Bony cost 27 million Pound

Mangala +40 million

The add ons deals are better than just throw 40 million potential

Its like we pay you 20m now, if the player reach his potential we will pay another 20


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He costs 35 million and add ons that are based on his individual performance in a time corridor (like getting the Ballon d'Or) that aren't very probable. But - if he reaches that heights in that time - will be ok to pay because of that success... (in that case his resell value will have exploded, too)
 
itisrising said:
We paid the bulk of the fee for Mangala, Bony, Sterling etc. Half of that fee is add-ons and if he actually fulfills them, then who can say he won't be worth it?
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Depends on what the addons are. Most of Martial's add ons are money in the bank for Monaco, for example.

When the contract is leaked we'll be able to see if these "addons" are just PR stunts or genuine.

Not really talking about the player tho and whether he'll serve Bayern well, more about the shit we'd get for "E80m Sanches"
 
Ajm1985 said:
True, but even when all parties are willing, we seem to take our time whereas Bayern are swifter than any other teams. They make normal transfers as if it's deadline day.
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We really can't win with transfers can we?
Close the deal early and we've been bent over, delay for a better deal and we're incompetent negotiators who nearly lost the player.
 
I notice Ogden, McDonnell and co are now spinning this as United turning him down, rather than the other way around. Fairly sure if it was us they'd be claiming we'd been "snubbed".
 
Ric said:
I notice Ogden, McDonnell and co are now spinning this as United turning him down, rather than the other way around. Fairly sure if it was us they'd be claiming we'd been "snubbed".
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I'm fairly sure it would be what the 'sources' would tell them, even if it would be City. Maybe not Ogden, but Ducker reported the same and he's at least always fair, if anything.

Few days ago, United did scout him the 99th time this season, at least according to reports, now suddenly we are informed that they decided not to buy him in February. Also, Di Marzio reported that Bayern basically did all the damage in just about two days, so I think I know what to think of this saga. :)
 
Ric said:
I notice Ogden, McDonnell and co are now spinning this as United turning him down, rather than the other way around. Fairly sure if it was us they'd be claiming we'd been "snubbed".
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Weird that they have scouted the last 25 games he's played then if they'd walked away, or that Renato Sanches has come out and said that he had offers from them but chose Bayern? Weird that.
 
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