BT Sport

[JoeMercer'sWay]

I would classify seville, juve, psg and Madrid as top level teams, all if them would comfortably beat any typical top-4 EPL team, and would have a good shot at beating barca / bayern.

Our record is won 3, drawn 2, lost 3. Which is fine, and a great deal better than our track record against EPL top-8 this season.

What I would worry about though are the two juve matches. We had the advantage in both, as juve needed to score, and we failed to shut them out it punish them on the counter.

so 2 teams in our group, one of whom we knocked out, are top level teams, and we outlasted the other.

Therefore we also have to considered as top level by that logic.

 

[taleofbluehalves]

BT Sport are finished when there deal with the CL expires 'thank god' UEFA want it back to free to air 'either the BBC OR ITV should bid enough, viewing figures with BT Sport have hit an all time low

I remember the nauseating commentary watching City beat Liverpool 2-1 the season when we won the league and when Negedo scored the winner. Owen was the summariser and he didn't in anyway disguise he allegiance for Liverpool. Dreadful coverage.

 

[bluetev]

so 2 teams in our group, one of whom we knocked out, are top level teams, and we outlasted the other.

Therefore we also have to considered as top level by that logic.

I thought we did really well to qualify from our group, leave alone finish top.
I would bet any other epl team would have finished rock bottom. Even gladbach were excellent and unlucky, could have qualified from most of the other groups.

I would say pellegrini did rather well in Europe. Scumbag sports completely pissed over our brilliant performance vs psg, compare that to Chelsea against the same team, despite them cheating to get ibra sent off.

 

[yeseye]

I thought we did really well to qualify from our group, leave alone finish top.
I would bet any other epl team would have finished rock bottom. Even gladbach were excellent and unlucky, could have qualified from most of the other groups.

I would say pellegrini did rather well in Europe. Scumbag sports completely pissed over our brilliant performance vs psg, compare that to Chelsea against the same team, despite them cheating to get ibra sent off.

My window cleaner informed me we beat a poor PSG.
I informed him my windows wouldn't need cleaning anymore.
Goodbye fuckwit!

 

[dom]

It's not so much the coverage that's the problem,it's knowing they have pundits who are only to glad to get digs in or mock the club,would Utd or Liverpool for instance expect ex city players on their games as pundits,the fa cup omission,the champions league flyer only add fuel to the fire.Some people might think get over yourselves acting like spoilt children cause they say bad things about your club.But it's the perception it portrays to neutral fans of what they claim is correct,an example the emptyhad cliaming we have masses of empty seats at games which we no to be bollocks but the more they peddle it,it then sticks and is taken as gospel,it's all negative in regards publicity which actually does seem to have an effect regards how we are portrayed..

This, however the idiots at BT still cannot smell the coffee, as City are growing globally at an unprecented rate as is their fan base and their stupid bias (and Year 8- level lame excuses) just make them backward-looking and unprofessional and above all, petty,... as well as naive , in terms of strategic marketing.
We dropped BT a few years go because of their crap internet support... when I heard about them challenging Sly for footy coverage , I thought... yeah, nice one, maybe someone with the vision to see where the game is going and without all the baggage..... glad I didn't get the cheque book out now...
Cannot wait to see how the tw@ts look in five years' time

 

[Chris in London]

I hardly think that putting something in the schedule belatedly after being rumbled qualifies as an explanation.

Here is what they said to the MEN

BT Sport take its responsibility as a broadcaster extremely seriously and aims to deliver top quality live sports coverage to its viewers. We always try to take a fair view of the teams and the competitions which we broadcast.

“Last week BT Sport showed a number of classic FA Cup Finals back to back in the run up to the Emirates FA Cup Final on Saturday evening. We apologise that Manchester City v Stoke City was not shown on Thursday, however it was shown on BT Sport on Saturday.”

Point one. If they think their coverage of City in the CL has been fair this season they have neither judgment nor insight. For a national broadcaster those are quite serious faults. Not ones you would associate with a broadcaster that 'takes their responsibility extremely seriously'.

Point two. They were clearly unwilling to cooperate with the BBC in relation to rescheduling the Chelsea FA Cup game. Make of that what you will.

Point three. Their explanation of the missing FA Cup final is disingenuous. It is misleading for their statement to refer to 'a number of classic' FA Cup finals because that suggests an editorial judgment about what constitutes a classic FA Cup final was made, and implies that we are simply having a hissy fit that the Stoke game wasn't considered a classic. In fact, as we all know, every single cup final from the 1980s onwards was aired with one single exception. The statement therefore tends to mislead, which is precisely what it was designed to do.

Point four. It appears that mass cancellations of BT membership from City fans has had at least some effect, because they are at last answering their criticism after having ignored it all season. If however this statement is BT's answer, intended to pour oil on those troubled waters, I would have thought this shabby, disingenuous response is singularly unlikely to achieve that effect. In fact it is more likely to have the opposite view.

Anyone from BT reading this might want to reflect on the hole they are in, and to see in practical terms what they can do - not say - to demonstrate that they have decided to stop digging.

 

[dom]

Pure Digital Mediah management - they concentrate on the core market Rags. Dippers and Arse. The result is that fans of every other club feck off leaving them with a smaller meerkat that can't sustain the business. as every paper will go bust so will BT Sport. Staggers me that the bosses can't see the problem but they just stagger on regardless.

This , BA, is it, in a nutshell... I will laugh as they slither down the drain

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Here is what they said to the MEN



Point one. If they think their coverage of City in the CL has been fair this season they have neither judgment nor insight. For a national broadcaster those are quite serious faults. Not ones you would associate with a broadcaster that 'takes their responsibility extremely seriously'.

Point two. They were clearly unwilling to cooperate with the BBC in relation to rescheduling the Chelsea FA Cup game. Make of that what you will.

Point three. Their explanation of the missing FA Cup final is disingenuous. It is misleading for their statement to refer to 'a number of classic' FA Cup finals because that suggests an editorial judgment about what constitutes a classic FA Cup final was made, and implies that we are simply having a hissy fit that the Stoke game wasn't considered a classic. In fact, as we all know, every single cup final from the 1980s onwards was aired with one single exception. The statement therefore tends to mislead, which is precisely what it was designed to do.

Point four. It appears that mass cancellations of BT membership from City fans has had at least some effect, because they are at last answering their criticism after having ignored it all season. If however this statement is BT's answer, intended to pour oil on those troubled waters, I would have thought this shabby, disingenuous response is singularly unlikely to achieve that effect. In fact it is more likely to have the opposite view.

Anyone from BT reading this might want to reflect on the hole they are in, and to see in practical terms what they can do - not say - to demonstrate that they have decided to stop digging.

Powerful submissions.

 

[George Hannah]

a particular low point was an hour and a half of brain damage complaining he was bored as we qualified at home in first place in the CL group

 

[BlueAnorak]

Here is what they said to the MEN



Point one. If they think their coverage of City in the CL has been fair this season they have neither judgment nor insight. For a national broadcaster those are quite serious faults. Not ones you would associate with a broadcaster that 'takes their responsibility extremely seriously'.

Point two. They were clearly unwilling to cooperate with the BBC in relation to rescheduling the Chelsea FA Cup game. Make of that what you will.

Point three. Their explanation of the missing FA Cup final is disingenuous. It is misleading for their statement to refer to 'a number of classic' FA Cup finals because that suggests an editorial judgment about what constitutes a classic FA Cup final was made, and implies that we are simply having a hissy fit that the Stoke game wasn't considered a classic. In fact, as we all know, every single cup final from the 1980s onwards was aired with one single exception. The statement therefore tends to mislead, which is precisely what it was designed to do.

Point four. It appears that mass cancellations of BT membership from City fans has had at least some effect, because they are at last answering their criticism after having ignored it all season. If however this statement is BT's answer, intended to pour oil on those troubled waters, I would have thought this shabby, disingenuous response is singularly unlikely to achieve that effect. In fact it is more likely to have the opposite view.

Anyone from BT reading this might want to reflect on the hole they are in, and to see in practical terms what they can do - not say - to demonstrate that they have decided to stop digging.

Fantastic points. I agree with every one.

 

[deano ou812]

Just a follow up to add what other posters have posted previously in other threads the main one being the agenda thread.In my opinion there is also a slightly sinister element to bt's coverage in that our owners happen to be Arabs,and not nice English or American or European owners,which if they were I feel it would be slightly different how we are reported on by all sections of media...

 

[manchester blue]

I'm a little disappointed that the MEN hasn't pushed BT for a less corporate response that actually answers some of the concerns which has led to numerous cancellations or even get Mr Green for an interview about their terrible coverage...

 

[mat]

Just a follow up to add what other posters have posted previously in other threads the main one being the agenda thread.In my opinion there is also a slightly sinister element to bt's coverage in that our owners happen to be Arabs,and not nice English or American or European owners,which if they were I feel it would be slightly different how we are reported on by all sections of media...

It's something I've suspected ever since the takeover. The PSG coverage boarded on racist.

 

[Dribble]

You have just completely changed the subject of your initial post. You said that they were not even a decent team which I responded too. Now you are asking me if they are classed as European elite which is a totally different discussion. At the moment maybe four teams would be considered as elite....the two Madrid's, Barca and Bayern. Let's hope that City will become part of that under Pep over the next couple of years. In any case this discussion should not be part of the BT Sport thread.

Where did I say "Sevilla are not even a decent team?"

When I'm talking about European elite, I'm talking about the teams who regularly qualify for the latter stages of the CL which by virtue of Sevilla having won the Europa League 3 years on the trot shows they are a decent team but not one of Europe's elite as they've consistently failed to get past the group stages of the CL.

I mentioned our record against Europe's top qualifying CL clubs by way of saying our results against them haven't been anything to crow about, so perhaps some of the criticism against us by the BT pundits may have had some justification. I thought their comments about us versus Juve, PSG and Real have been fair enough. We were good against Juve and both matches could have easily gone either way, but they were just better than us over all, against PSG, I thought we were on their level and the fact they had to win or score 3 away goals to go though mean't the onus was on them to force the issue and we just sat back in the 2nd leg and picked them off which is all we needed to do.

Against Real we were shit and Real weren't that good either. From what I recall, this is broadly what the BT pundits said too which I think is fair comment.......... Unless like with you reckoning I've said "Sevilla are not even a decent team" somewhere, you've heard the BT panel say different to what they actually did.....

 

[Dribble]

I would classify seville, juve, psg and Madrid as top level teams, all if them would comfortably beat any typical top-4 EPL team, and would have a good shot at beating barca / bayern.

Our record is won 3, drawn 2, lost 3. Which is fine, and a great deal better than our track record against EPL top-8 this season.

What I would worry about though are the two juve matches. We had the advantage in both, as juve needed to score, and we failed to shut them out it punish them on the counter.

So by your reasoning Kiev having qualified for the knockout stages of the CL, must also be top level team as they got further in Europe's elite competition that Sevilla have?

 

[taleofbluehalves]

I disappointed the BT Sport issue wasn't hit a little harder on Blue Tuesday though Simon Mulluck said City have addressed it.

 

[FantasyIreland]

You deliberately didn't quote the preceding paragraph which changes the context of what I wrote and we all know why. So for the avoidance of doubt here it is.........

Then youre missing the point spectacularly.
The issue isn't the criticism itself,as i'm in agreement that aspects of our campaign were deserving of such,its the bias of said analysis and the way in which its delivered.
Without doubt,BT treat us differently to other English teams by way of their broadcastng of our games or,simply,when discussing the club in general - there is an obvious agenda,a reluctance to portray us positively......from their choice of match pundit to their scheduling and coverage - its frequently with bias and contempt and a total lack of respect - its unjustified,inexcusable and utterly pathetic.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Which thread do we complain about Sky sports in? All I've seen all morning is how fucking amazing Peggy is, and How Beaky is a natural winner.

The state of News Stations these months have been more sickening than usual

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Then youre missing the point spectacularly.
The issue isn't the criticism itself,as i'm in agreement that aspects of our campaign were deserving of such,its the bias of said analysis and the way in which its delivered.
Without doubt,BT treat us differently to other English teams by way of their broadcastng of our games or,simply,when discussing the club in general - there is an obvious agenda,a reluctance to portray us positively......from their choice of match pundit to their scheduling and coverage - its frequently with bias and contempt and a total lack of respect - its unjustified,inexcusable and utterly pathetic.

Agree completely. It's worth remembering here though that for all that BT's coverage of our games has been a pathetic, clickbait orientated, biased disgrace, I still haven't heard any comments as extreme as those levelled at us by Scholes and that fat cnut Chiles on ITV that time (I think it was Munich at home 3 years ago), when they were on empty seat watch a full 35 minutes before kick off and the slug claimed on air that the club had "no soul" and pondered whether the team weren't just "a bunch of mercenaries". Now that really boiled my piss!

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Which thread do we complain about Sky sports in? All I've seen all morning is how fucking amazing Peggy is, and How Beaky is a natural winner.

The state of News Stations these months have been more sickening than usual

Not sure what the issue is there. Biggest team in England gets one of the most successful, charismatic managers in, whilst there is not really any other sport going on and a sports news channel goes over the top with reporting it. Not really a surprise.