Toni Kroos

adrianr said:
I know Gundogan has signed so we're bored of him already, but the man is the definition of midfield control. His vision and ability on the ball are every bit as good as Kroos IMO. Not saying we shouldn't get Kroos in there as well but we've already easily replaced the brain part of Yaya and then some as far as I'm concerned.
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nah i think both kroos and Gundogan can exist together. Gundogan will be our xavi and kroos will be busquets.
 
adrianr said:
I know Gundogan has signed so we're bored of him already, but the man is the definition of midfield control. His vision and ability on the ball are every bit as good as Kroos IMO. Not saying we shouldn't get Kroos in there as well but we've already easily replaced the brain part of Yaya and then some as far as I'm concerned.
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I've not seen anything like as much of Gundogan as Kroos but the thought of the pair of them in tandem excites me. I want us to dominate the ball by keeping it, not by chasing after it. I could imagine Kroos and Gundogan being a bit like the Modric and Kroos that we faced recently.

Edit: And Pep is not averse to playing a double pivote.
 
OB1 said:
Maybe they thought he was not attainable but the situation is changing?

Pep is a big admirer, that is common knowledge so I find it hard to imagine that he would not want him. £50m would not be unreasonable: as I keep saying, probably the best passer of a ball around; now that Xavi is on his last legs...
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He hits that diagonal ball to both wings better than anyone else in the world, although he seems have become more restrained at Madrid, as he was a beast for picking up the bits on the edge of the area and scoring a few?

I do think if we drop Silva a little deeper and make him the third with Kroos and Gondogan, magic could happen, although Silva will have to run like never before.
 
@tolmie @Ric any idea who the left sided wingback will be. if pep is indeed going for 3 at back seems odd we are not linked with any quick left footed players.
 
With Kroos and Gundogan we could pass teams to death but we may lose a bit of the drive that Yaya at his best gave us. I could see some of our supporters getting very impatient in some matches as we would own the ball.
 
OB1 said:
Maybe they thought he was not attainable but the situation is changing?

Pep is a big admirer, that is common knowledge so I find it hard to imagine that he would not want him. £50m would not be unreasonable: as I keep saying, probably the best passer of a ball around; now that Xavi is on his last legs...
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Sorry but Iniesta is easily the best passer of the ball in World football
 
pavelsrnicek said:
With Kroos and Gundogan we could pass teams to death but we may lose a bit of the drive that Yaya at his best gave us. I could see some of our supporters getting very impatient in some matches as we would own the ball.
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If we wanted to control the ball then Silva making up the 3 would be ideal, on the other hand if it was that drive and getting into the box or getting goals the way Muller does for Bayern then it would need to be DeBruyne making up the midfield 3. Either way works for me.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
He hits that diagonal ball to both wings better than anyone else in the world, although he seems have become more restrained at Madrid, as he was a beast for picking up the bits on the edge of the area and scoring a few?

I do think if we drop Silva a little deeper and make him the third with Kroos and Gondogan, magic could happen, although Silva will have to run like never before.
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I agree. As good as Silva is he's not the best at getting around or through a defense himself. Drop him deeper and let the ball do the work :-)
 
mad zab said:
Sorry but Iniesta is easily the best passer of the ball in World football
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I'd say they both are on their own level. Toni Kroos's avg passes are the largest in length as compared to any other midfielder . He's very accurate with really-really long diagonal balls.
 
K10&S21 said:
nah i think both kroos and Gundogan can exist together. Gundogan will be our xavi and kroos will be busquets.
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The rumor that Kroos can play a Busquets role needs to die, he's awful defensively and is always horribly exposed, Pep knows as much as he put Lahm in the role at Bayern almost immediately after trying Kroos there.

If we're making Barca comparisons then Gundogan will be our Iniesta while Kroos will be our Xavi, maybe Fernandinho can be our Busquets but Kroos simply can't.
 
MasterOfKnees said:
The rumor that Kroos can play a Busquets role needs to die, he's awful defensively and is always horribly exposed.

If we're making Barca comparisons then Gundogan will be our Iniesta while Kroos will be our Xavi, maybe Fernandinho can be our Busquets but Kroos simply can't.
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Who'll be the leg-breaker? Nando maybe?
 
mad zab said:
Sorry but Iniesta is easily the best passer of the ball in World football
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No need to be sorry :-) Iniesta is a brilliant player and I'd probably have him down as the best midfield player in the world right now but I don't agree that he is a better all round passer of the ball than Kroos and certainly not easily so. Not much to choose between them either way in regards to passing but they are different players anyhow; and if both were available, City would buy both of them.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
He hits that diagonal ball to both wings better than anyone else in the world, although he seems have become more restrained at Madrid, as he was a beast for picking up the bits on the edge of the area and scoring a few?

I do think if we drop Silva a little deeper and make him the third with Kroos and Gondogan, magic could happen, although Silva will have to run like never before.
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Kroos played some long diagonals the other day that had me drooling: the weight and the accuracy!

One of my thoughts would be to drop KDB into the midfield three but then Silva and KDB are alternates for a few roles. Watching Spain the other night, I saw Silva as Silva and KDB as Iniesta! Looking at other posts, people can't agree on who would be Xavi, Iniesta or Busquets in Pep's City side but he does not have to directly replicate that.
 
I don't think he has directly replicated that at Bayern and the German league probably has more in common with ours than Spain. So replicating Bayern is more likely. That's why I see KDB in a Muller role with Gundogon and Kroos in the Alonso, Vidal roles. Still gives us Fernando,Fernandinho, Nasri and Silva to rotate in.
 
Dont think we should get our hopes up on this one...

MCFC Info ‏@MCFClnfo 1m1 minute ago
Real Madrid have declared Toni Kroos as untransferable, amid interest from Pep Guardiola's City. [@fichajesnet]

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