Racist incidents on the rise?

BobKowalski said:
There are. And when or if any of those parties run on a message of anti semitism I will campaign and vote against them. Just as I did with the Leave campaign.
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But as long as they think it but don't say it then it's OK with you. You're entitled to vote the way you want of course for the reasons you want. But so is everyone else. I made my mind up which way I was going to vote some time ago and wasn't going to change. There's been a few occasions when I've metaphorically held my nose when voting because it put me in the same lobby as some people whose views are abhorrent to me. But there wasn't a box that said "Leave the EU (but honestly guv I'm not a racist and some of my best friends are Black, Asian or Jewish).
 
BobKowalski said:
Again. Leave Campaign had an overt racist message which was echoed and reinforced in some areas of the media. You can pretend it wasn't there or it was just some extreme fuckwittery or nonsense or however you want to dress it up but it was still there. Point out the fucking obvious and people start fainting and clutching their pearls.
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and clearly the remainers are exactly the same discriminatory bigots. Or maybe, you two are just 2 of the bad-uns and there are plenty of decent, reasonable remainers just like there are leavers. The remainers threatened people, tried to bully people with fear, discriminated against anyone and everyone who would have voted leave for whatever reason and believed that much of the country didn't have the right to a voice and should carry on with a world that only benefited the few. Not much need to carry on demonstrating the discriminatory bigotry spouted by remainers, speaks for itself.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
But as long as they think it but don't say it then it's OK with you. You're entitled to vote the way you want of course for the reasons you want. But so is everyone else. I made my mind up which way I was going to vote some time ago and wasn't going to change. There's been a few occasions when I've metaphorically held my nose when voting because it put me in the same lobby as some people whose views are abhorrent to me. But there wasn't a box that said "Leave the EU (but honestly guv I'm not a racist and some of my best friends are Black, Asian or Jewish).
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Billy hasn't called you or the 17 million racists. He said that if he had voted leave, a campaign ran on xenophobia, he would understand that there would be a feeling of racism attached to that decision. You would have to be ridiculously naive to think otherwise bearing in mind who the face of the campaign was.

All this playing the reverse racism card from the outers is hilarious. You all know the difference between winning and losing the referendum was out and out xenophobia. That's not saying 17 million are, but enough were to win the campaign. This is 100% down to the media and it's right wing ownership. The working class of this country have been conned it's they that will feel it the worst.
 
BillyShears said:
It seems that we are supposed to now pretend that even though the almost ENTIRE Leave campaign was based on prehistoric racist xenophobic messages, since there's some good blokes who voted with them, we need to forget what a disgusting and racist campaign it was, ignore the fat bald drunken racist cunts bowling around various small towns in England this week declaring victory, and get stuck into the minutia of what Article fucking 50 means or how this might be a good thing for some middle classes in a decade or so's time.
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How do you know those fat bald drunken racist cunts even voted?
 
BillyShears said:
It seems that we are supposed to now pretend that even though the almost ENTIRE Leave campaign was based on prehistoric racist xenophobic messages, since there's some good blokes who voted with them, we need to forget what a disgusting and racist campaign it was, ignore the fat bald drunken racist cunts bowling around various small towns in England this week declaring victory, and get stuck into the minutia of what Article fucking 50 means or how this might be a good thing for some middle classes in a decade or so's time.
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City have will have some racists in tow. Does that make you a racist too?
 
BobKowalski said:
Again. Leave Campaign had an overt racist message which was echoed and reinforced in some areas of the media. You can pretend it wasn't there or it was just some extreme fuckwittery or nonsense or however you want to dress it up but it was still there. Point out the fucking obvious and people start fainting and clutching their pearls.
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I never pretended anything sunshine
BobKowalski said:
Again. Leave Campaign had an overt racist message which was echoed and reinforced in some areas of the media. You can pretend it wasn't there or it was just some extreme fuckwittery or nonsense or however you want to dress it up but it was still there. Point out the fucking obvious and people start fainting and clutching their pearls.[/QUOTE
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BobKowalski said:
Again. Leave Campaign had an overt racist message which was echoed and reinforced in some areas of the media. You can pretend it wasn't there or it was just some extreme fuckwittery or nonsense or however you want to dress it up but it was still there. Point out the fucking obvious and people start fainting and clutching their pearls.
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A) show me where I said it wasn't there, so you just made something up, doh!

B) racism is extreme fuckwittery and nonsense, that's not pretence, doh!

C) the only fainting and drama queening I am seeing is from the cry baby,bad losing and angst ridden inners doh!

Carry on though it's great fun
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
and clearly the remainers are exactly the same discriminatory bigots. Or maybe, you two are just 2 of the bad-uns and there are plenty of decent, reasonable remainers just like there are leavers. The remainers threatened people, tried to bully people with fear, discriminated against anyone and everyone who would have voted leave for whatever reason and believed that much of the country didn't have the right to a voice and should carry on with a world that only benefited the few. Not much need to carry on demonstrating the discriminatory bigotry spouted by remainers, speaks for itself.
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The decent retainers keep getting banned. No doubt I will be able to rejoin this conversation in a couple of day lol! We should have moved on by then.
 
jay_mcfc said:
Billy hasn't called you or the 17 million racists. He said that if he had voted leave, a campaign ran on xenophobia, he would understand that there would be a feeling of racism attached to that decision. You would have to be ridiculously naive to think otherwise bearing in mind who the face of the campaign was.
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Yes he has. Here's what he said:
BillyShears said:
People voting to leave have aligned themselves with the most right wing and racist politicians and political parties not just in Britain, but across Europe. That's going to lead to accusations of racism. My original post which you so staggeringly mischaracterised stated quite clearly "IF" i'd voted to leave I'd have been intelligent enough to understand why i'd been accused of at worst being a racist and at best, condoning racism. Either way nobody who voted "out" gets a free pass in my eyes.
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That means I'm at worst a racist or have deliberately condoned racism.
 
jay_mcfc said:
It's an internet forum where people discuss what's happening in the world. I'm sick to death of being told I have to move on. You and everyone else have no idea how this might affect people's lives. Whether the victors like it or not life in Europe has been thrown into chaos and will never be the same again. I don't think four days talking about it will cause any more harm than the decision that's already been made.
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I think your underselling the seriousness of this decision

Candle lit
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
How do you know those fat bald drunken racist cunts even voted?
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and considering he's a City fan and they've done everything from munich chants, to violence against opposition fans, to hissing noises at Spurs fans and have employed a subsequently convicted sex offender and a chief exec who was sacked for an offensive email to a cancer sufferer. God knows what an appalling individual he must be for his association with our set of supporters.
 
hilts said:
If you go to a game it means you love Enoch Powell , you uneducated nazi

I think this is how it works anyway, they do keep changing the excuses as to how they lost though
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Again. And to be honest its a fairly simple concept. City having racist fans is inevitable as with any club. But supporting City does not make me or you racist. If City tomorrow adopted an anti-semitic or homophobic stance as club policy and I continued to support them then I am condoning that message and would make me complicit.

Trust that clarifies.
 
jay_mcfc said:
Billy hasn't called you or the 17 million racists. He said that if he had voted leave, a campaign ran on xenophobia, he would understand that there would be a feeling of racism attached to that decision. You would have to be ridiculously naive to think otherwise bearing in mind who the face of the campaign was.

All this playing the reverse racism card from the outers is hilarious. You all know the difference between winning and losing the referendum was out and out xenophobia. That's not saying 17 million are, but enough were to win the campaign. This is 100% down to the media and it's right wing ownership. The working class of this country have been conned it's they that will feel it the worst.
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Thank you. You seem to at least get where I'm coming from.
 
BobKowalski said:
Again. And to be honest its a fairly simple concept. City having racist fans is inevitable as with any club. But supporting City does not make me or you racist. If City tomorrow adopted an anti-semitic or homophobic stance as club policy and I continued to support them then I am condoning that message and would make me complicit.

Trust that clarifies.
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Oh dear that is some terrible logic, you did understand we were voting to leave the EU right?
 
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