The are we allowed the "it's quiet" thread yet? thread.

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Goatmeal said:
Snap their hand off!!
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Why do City fans think players who are not brilliant for us are rubbish - Bony's goal scoring record for Swansea was phenominal, he is only 26. When you consider Liverpool are asking for 32mill for Benteke and Watford turned down 30 mill for Deeney then looks to me that Everton would be getting a good deal.

Unless we pay 50 mill and sell for 5 some people are not happy. We need to start making some money back on players we sell - yes his wages are probably high but so is the current transfer markey for English clubs.
 
Now I think we've had a good window but still surprised no new full backs!!

Hopefully Angelino has impressed.
 
onceabluealways said:
Why do City fans think players who are not brilliant for us are rubbish - Bony's goal scoring record for Swansea was phenominal, he is only 26. When you consider Liverpool are asking for 32mill for Benteke and Watford turned down 30 mill for Deeney then looks to me that Everton would be getting a good deal.

Unless we pay 50 mill and sell for 5 some people are not happy. We need to start making some money back on players we sell - yes his wages are probably high but so is the current transfer markey for English clubs.
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Well said mate
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
No, Joe panics, its one of the requirements of a pep team to listen.... Lets not hang joe just yet, however, in 3 months if he continues to ignore, he'll be out in 12 months.....pep says it countless times in his book, for his players to trust him... He can take mistakes but don't ignore instruction, it's to be seen if Joe can do this!!
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I'd rather have Joe panic than Willy aimlessly pass it to the oppo strikers like he has done five times so far in preseason.
 
onceabluealways said:
Why do City fans think players who are not brilliant for us are rubbish - Bony's goal scoring record for Swansea was phenominal, he is only 26. When you consider Liverpool are asking for 32mill for Benteke and Watford turned down 30 mill for Deeney then looks to me that Everton would be getting a good deal.

Unless we pay 50 mill and sell for 5 some people are not happy. We need to start making some money back on players we sell - yes his wages are probably high but so is the current transfer markey for English clubs.
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We don't. We just know enough to factor in the wage discrepancy when discussing fees.
 
SWP's back said:
I'd rather have Joe panic than Willy aimlessly pass it to the oppo strikers like he has done five times so far in preseason.
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You have to respect your Caesar, that is the point.... He's even telling the players that if they make mistakes it's 'OK', as long as it's doing what he asks..

Personally, I don't think Joe thinks quick enough when under pressure to execute what Pep will want... It may not even be intentional but if he continues to blast it without thought, he's off!!!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You have to respect your Caesar, that is the point.... He's even telling the players that if they make mistakes it's 'OK', as long as it's doing what he asks..

Personally, I don't think Joe thinks quick enough when under pressure to execute what Pep will want... It may not even be intentional but if he continues to blast it without thought, he's off!!!
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Yeah I agree. But I'd prefer him to kick it long all season and be sold for a ball playing keeper than have Willy being the obedient servant and pass it to their striker two or three times a game.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
You have to respect your Caesar, that is the point.... He's even telling the players that if they make mistakes it's 'OK', as long as it's doing what he asks..

Personally, I don't think Joe thinks quick enough when under pressure to execute what Pep will want... It may not even be intentional but if he continues to blast it without thought, he's off!!!
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I got the impression he ignored instruction from Pellegrini, as it appeared we were set up to play the ball out a lot more, but he would quite often tell the defenders to fuck off & lump it (to the lino) even when he had time & space. Pel let him do it, Pep won't. In fact I'd guess it's curtains after one game or two at the most if he doesn't do as instructed. He has to at least try & do it & be willing to learn. The team won't function if he hits it long imo.
 
I'm sure even Willy would be happy to be able to pass it out to Stones now without fear of a bambi on ice reenactment.

His signing alone will improve distribution.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah I agree. But I'd prefer him to kick it long all season and be sold for a ball playing keeper than have Willy being the obedient servant and pass it to their striker two or three times a game.
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Not me mate, he's infuriated me for over 18 months with his insistence on hitting the same diagonal ball to navas, silva, kun et al.... Obviously you'd go with Joe in a real game scenario as his faults are nowhere near his plus points, however, unfortunately his Achilles heel is a requirement in the future of this team...

Hard decisions are made by the top managers, this is one of the easy ones for pep!!
 
pudge said:
I'm sure even Willy would be happy to be able to pass it out to Stones now without fear of a bambi on ice reenactment.

His signing alone will improve distribution.
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A good point.

And Zin, I understand where you're coming from, I'd just prefer Gunn to that other thing we have in yellow.
 
The signing of Stones will help the keepers immensely, I noticed in the England v Turkey game (at ours) that Joe was often giving it to Stones' feet during that friendly.
I'm sure that will be the case throughout most games this season, providing he adheres to instruction.
 
SWP's back said:
A good point.

And Zin, I understand where you're coming from, I'd just prefer Gunn to that other thing we have in yellow.
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I was surprised by how nervous Gunn was on the ball, I expected more from an academy keeper given their style of play.

Perhaps it was just nerves though and Dortmund have as intense a press as anyone in the game. Most of the time it would be nowhere near as high pressure.
 
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