If we had this attention to detail on corners, why have we been continually so shit at them ? (Not just under Pep, but for what seems like decades to me).
I thought the first one yesterday was just a miss kick, but the second proves otherwise, and I now hope we can continue to innovate with them. For now though I'm just going to put it down to luck, at least until it becomes a pattern.
Flippin heck, have I touched a nerve, only said what I saw, I had better be careful, I am not one of the elite on here, got banned last time I was drawn by somebody picking on me. Only been watching city since 1963, but only joined bm last season, so not one of the favourites yet. And yes Zabba was beaten easily for the goal, ironically I did not mention that for fear of being critical of a great city servant. ;-)So you did not see the same happen to Zabba, such as the goal or for Bravo's save? There best two chances came from zabba getting beaten.
Not a dig at Zabba because it happens but the constant criticism of Kolorav when others shortcomings are overlooked does my head in.
Well if it does become a pattern, it will be a very pleasing development, because if there's one thing about the club that I have waited a long time for, its an improvement in our corner taking.It's like that free kick that KDB put under the wall and scored from; there is no doubt that Pep and his guys look for these things but not every opponent will offer up those opportunities. However, it is one thing to spot them and have a plan but another for the players to execute during a game.
Torrent takes the lead on set pieces; both defending and attacking situations.
Flippin heck, have I touched a nerve, only said what I saw, I had better be careful, I am not one of the elite on here, got banned last time I was drawn by somebody picking on me. Only been watching city since 1963, but only joined bm last season, so not one of the favourites yet. And yes Zabba was beaten easily for the goal, ironically I did not mention that for fear of being critical of a great city servant. ;-)
Thanks for reply, but I say again, I have no agenda against any blue, always been loyal, how could I be anything else the amount of time I have been a city fan. Derek Kevan and David Wagstaffe used to be my favourites, so when I see KDB, Kun, Silva and co playing for us how can I be anything but delighted :-)Thats the nerve you hit mate. You never mentioned Zabbas shortcomings because its not popular on the board but its ok to have a dig at Kolorav (not being a fans favourite), which is playing to the gallery.
Nothing personal though. Keep enjoying the board. Ive been here years and still an outsider looking in.
Thanks for reply, but I say again, I have no agenda against any blue, always been loyal, how could I be anything else the amount of time I have been a city fan. Derek Kevan and David Wagstaffe used to be my favourites, so when I see KDB, Kun, Silva and co playing for us how can I be anything but delighted :-)
I like your post, some really good points highlighted by you, I was being to think I was paronoid thinking teams seem to try harder against us, and in some cases having game of their careers , like the Everton keeper, and also Boro defence and keeper :-)we always want more and question will always be asked but the truth is 3 points move on
forget the money and the world class manager and the great players its still is 11 vs 11 you have to go out and fight for the points nobody is ever going to give manchester city the points for having the best squad on paper we are now the biggest scalp in the league
i watch the game vs swansea the other week and boy that was a very hard away game and we had to fight for the win WHY may you ask well the other week united turn up at swansea and they just did not have the fight they rolled over now that's the key WE ARE EVERYBODY KEY GAME AWAY FROM HOME. the media love nothing more than to over hype manchester city losing its the big thing every time we get beat the money comes up superstars not turn up we are fighting 2 battles each game we play the other team and the media
i now look at it the other way and teams like palace stoke wba boro sunderland are the hardest games and should be highlighted its a no win situation. we are going to have to roll up our sleeves and fight and play dirty if we have to but we need to take the points home and get back on the bus its that simple nobody is ever going to give us credit for beating palace but i will tall you something ask the players they know
you could see it yesterday when coming off they knew its was a big win palace are a good team at there ground and when city roll up its like we are having it. palace players knew they could make the news on the back of beating manchester city the media would be all over them the manager the players the talk of the town all week
for the first time it sunk in MANCHESTER CITY ARE THE TEAM TO BEAT but losing to manchester city is just the run of the mill
we always want more and question will always be asked but the truth is 3 points move on
forget the money and the world class manager and the great players its still is 11 vs 11 you have to go out and fight for the points nobody is ever going to give manchester city the points for having the best squad on paper we are now the biggest scalp in the league
i watch the game vs swansea the other week and boy that was a very hard away game and we had to fight for the win WHY may you ask well the other week united turn up at swansea and they just did not have the fight they rolled over now that's the key WE ARE EVERYBODY KEY GAME AWAY FROM HOME. the media love nothing more than to over hype manchester city losing its the big thing every time we get beat the money comes up superstars not turn up we are fighting 2 battles each game we play the other team and the media
i now look at it the other way and teams like palace stoke wba boro sunderland are the hardest games and should be highlighted its a no win situation. we are going to have to roll up our sleeves and fight and play dirty if we have to but we need to take the points home and get back on the bus its that simple nobody is ever going to give us credit for beating palace but i will tall you something ask the players they know
you could see it yesterday when coming off they knew its was a big win palace are a good team at there ground and when city roll up its like we are having it. palace players knew they could make the news on the back of beating manchester city the media would be all over them the manager the players the talk of the town all week
for the first time it sunk in MANCHESTER CITY ARE THE TEAM TO BEAT but losing to manchester city is just the run of the mill
Wasn't there one season under Mancini when we scored about 16 goals from corners? I think we just switched to always hitting inswingers.Well if it does become a pattern, it will be a very pleasing development, because if there's one thing about the club that I have waited a long time for, its an improvement in our corner taking.
The ref's body PGMOL hate us because we forced a few of their boys out.
There was a stat like that, but from memory we rarely scored direct from the corner itself, it usually came in the follow up play. Lesser talented clubs/players use it as a tactic and can do it direct, because they target doing it, with the amount of corners we get through our play, I don't see why we can't use it better than we do.Wasn't there one season under Mancini when we scored about 16 goals from corners?
Mate, as explained to you, because of the money now available in the PL & the superior class of manager most teams possess, the days of one dominant team steam rollering most in front of them is now a thing of the past. The traditional top four has now been supplanted by a top 6 of teams who stand just a good a chance of winning the PL as the others in that group.Sounds a tad conceited (i.e. the other lot), so I prefer to think of us still as 'a' big game, not 'the' big game. :-)
As for the rest, all very true, but I've often wondered why we seem so fragile at such places. In the modern stadia, I think we adapt quite comfortably, but in some of the old, 'hostile' grounds we always seem to look far less assured. Might just be me.
I agree to a point but we only really have the two centre backs to aim at trying to score direct from a set piece and other teams know that so we need to be a bit more imaginative like yesterdays corner maybe more low hit ones. I would imagine Barcelona have a similar problem from corners, but I dont know their stats to compare.There was a stat like that, but from memory we rarely scored direct from the corner itself, it usually came in the follow up play. Lesser talented clubs/players use it as a tactic and can do it direct, because they target doing it, with the amount of corners we get through our play, I don't see why we can't use it better than we do.
Clearly kolorov has some strengths.
The sad thing is that unlike Zabaleta, Kolorov has not got inherent defensive values. Top defenders want to defend their goal at any cost. Kolorov has more forward thoughts as his priority.
the whinging and moaning from the match thread wendys was hillarious