City v Celtic post match

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Magicpole said:
So, your telling me this level
of hatred only manifested itself last night? Boy, hating must be a piece of piss for you. Effortless.

From nothing to incandescence in 24 Hours.

There's a film in that.

I'm sure UEFA will take your views on board at their next meeting and spare you what seems like a debilitating condition.

You still haven't shown were you are getting this from. And as I said, even if a bunch of twats did do it. They are nit representative.
To ckaim they are shows a lack of understanding of rational thought and reason.

You hate, so you hate them
All. Genius.

A great uncle of mine was taken prisoner by the Jaoanese in WW2. It broke him. Under your logic the hundred or so Japanese soldiers who treated him so badly should make me hate all Japanese people as torturing, evil scum?

No. It's not like that. Hate the ones who did it, if it happened at all, not all who have a connection to a club.

That's just irrational.
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I think it is fair what you say that all Celtic fans are not the same.

I suppose it does not help having a continuous yearly reminder of yesteryear during Orange Parades in Ulster and beyond but as a City fan who has witnessed much of the problems associated with NI I would like to have my football polarised by football allegiance and not other matters that most people are glad to have resolved long ago.

It must be difficult for you because frankly we do not have or want reminders of the type some Celtic supporters brought to the Etihad. Hopefully this anachronism can be kept where it is still socially acceptable.
 
blueinsa said:
Dead rubber of a game and loads of changes.

Wonderful goal from Kelechi who is going to be world class.

Maffeo and Tosin both played well.

Gundogan played superbly i though and looks much better alone in there without Silva or Kevin.

Debatable offside and yet another penalty not given but eh, we are used too it now.

Celtic played well and also had a nailed on penalty denied so evens there.

Enjoyed the game.
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It was strange to watch. Coz it quickly became obvious that when we have all 3 players in the middle, none of them controls the play solely with the other 2 playing around the key player. Yesterday, with the other 2 midfielders being Defensive guys, everyone pretty much differed to the only creative player and force fed him the ball. And he pretty much tan the show.

It was interesting watching Zaba and Nando doing just enough simple stuff to get the ball back at Silky's feet and rotate around him.

Zaba also did a fantastic 'DeBryune down the middle' runs that never got picked up.

This was a fantastic game from an analysis stand point. I truly enjoyed watching it. Maffeo on the right holding the line, Zaba and Sagna interchanging btw RCB and RDM. Sane at Wingback. Kelechi with all his flaws making better runs than I've seen Aguero make all season. Nolito playing the supporting striker role perfectly. The hustle off the ball was very good too.

The formation clearly isn't well understood by our players too. Gaps on the Right side popping up way too often.

Caballero giving the Bravo downers red meat with a few point blank saves :p

The continued poor ball rotation from our defenders who on too many occasions cycled it back to Willy for a punt when there were key advantageous passes to be made (Clichy/Sagna especially).

I really enjoyed the game, results notwithstanding.
 
SilverFox2 said:
I think it is fair what you say that all Celtic fans are not the same.

I suppose it does not help having a continuous yearly reminder of yesteryear during Orange Parades in Ulster and beyond but as a City fan who has witnessed much of the problems associated with NI I would like to have my football polarised by football allegiance and not other matters that most people are glad to have resolved long ago.

It must be difficult for you because frankly we do not have or want reminders of the type some Celtic supporters brought to the Etihad. Hopefully this anachronism can be kept where it is still socially acceptable.
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I don't want it either. I cringe at it. Keeping yourself strapped to a past filled with hate is not my idea of how to enjoy a life on both sides.

It bores me senseless. My best pal is a true bluenose, I hate his football team but love him.

Even though he is a twat. :)

He has similar views on my team.

And me.
 
Magicpole said:
Ok ageing superstars and young prodigies. But class still or they wouldn't be with you.
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The City team that played last night would have got beaten by most Premiership teams. Once the group became set in stone, it was always going to be an odd fixture which no one really wanted apart from maybe the players who haven't played that much
 
Marvin said:
The City team that played last night would have got beaten by most Premiership teams. Once the group became set in stone, it was always going to be an odd fixture which no one really wanted apart from maybe the players who haven't played that much
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It was a chance for them all to claim
a first team place. If they couldn't get motivated by that then you would have to question their attitude.

I thought they looked great going forward.

Also, if all the prem teams would beat us, what does that say about you?

You are one of the absolute best and couldn't. Yet teams far inferior to you would?

That's illogical to my Vulcan mind.
 
dromoreblue said:
Gundogan excellent. And Sane better as game wore on.
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Sane is a really exciting player I think. His decision-making is naff and sometimes he gets things horribly wrong, but I think Pep will coach that out of him. But when he gets it right, my god that kid is going to be brilliant. His pace is ridiculous and he has skill to burn. Potentially a world class player in the making I think.
 
steviemc said:
Wipe your fanny. It's about team management - another person I'd have expected better from.
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It's an accumulation of the last 14 games, not just last night. I've seen us win one home game in the last 2 months. Whether it Pep or not I'd expect better from any Manager with our current squad.

Next 3 games will be interesting, hopefully we'll see the real Pep.
 
Magicpole said:
It was a chance for them all to claim
a first team place. If they couldn't get motivated by that then you would have to question their attitude.

I thought they looked great going forward.

Also, if all the prem teams would beat us, what does that say about you?

You are one of the absolute best and couldn't. Yet teams far inferior to you would?

That's illogical to my Vulcan mind.
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No chance those "not regular" players on the pitch last night would have a chance of becoming regulars at present. The likes of Silva, KDB, Fernandinho and Aguero are always going to be first choice.
The youngsters did well but the problem was a lack of cohesion in a scratch team which was the opposite of your guys who performed at a good collective level.
 
Magicpole said:
Of the total Celtic support it was. I still haven't seen anything to back the original charge up.

It's the blanket sweep that is utter pish and driven ironically by bigotry.
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Of the ones at the game last night . ?... no chance
Stop being naive
 
I thought Gundogan was good for you. Didn't really notice Sane much until later on. Tosin played well. For us brown and Armstrong were best. Roberts very good first half
 
I heard the fields of wherever around the 70th minute, a few wham songs and then some constant dirges they nobody could understand bar the Celtic fans. From where I sat it looked most of them were more concerned with looking at the stands rather than the pitch. I will assume all the droning dirges were their attempts at dinging sectarian shit. The reason they weren't chucked out is nobody could make head nor tail of what they sang.
 
Magicpole said:
We beat the best, Leeds at the time, home and away in the 1970 semi of the then European Cup.

Home and away.
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I’m not disputing that mate, although I do recall Leeds having a terrible backlog of fixtures.


I was merely making the point that from 66-74 the Football League was won by Liverpool, United, City, Leeds, Everton, Arsenal, Derby, Liverpool, and Leeds.

They were all great teams, but were equally too busy beating each other, for any one club to truly dominate

In addition, nine English clubs won a European trophy and England won the World Cup, and reached the Semifinals at Euro 68.


In contrast the Scottish League 66-74 was won by Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, and Celtic.

Consequently, despite being a top side, the Lisbon Lions were never truly tested on a weekly basis.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I’m not disputing that mate, although I do recall Leeds having a terrible backlog of fixtures.


I was merely making the point that from 66-74 the Football League was won by Liverpool, United, City, Leeds, Everton, Arsenal, Derby, Liverpool, and Leeds.

They were all great teams, but were equally too busy beating each other, for any one club to truly dominate

In addition, nine English clubs won a European trophy and England won the World Cup, and reached the Semifinals at Euro 68.


In contrast the Scottish League 66-74 was won by Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, and Celtic.

Consequently, despite being a top side, the Lisbon Lions were never truly tested on a weekly basis.
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And the same thing happens now. We don't get tested on a weekly basis. When we play in Europe we have to massively raise our game. We have made good strides this year. If you watched the games you'd see that. Hopefully next year we don't get as rough a draw and can secure third place and maybe push for second.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
I’m not disputing that mate, although I do recall Leeds having a terrible backlog of fixtures.


I was merely making the point that from 66-74 the Football League was won by Liverpool, United, City, Leeds, Everton, Arsenal, Derby, Liverpool, and Leeds.

They were all great teams, but were equally too busy beating each other, for any one club to truly dominate

In addition, nine English clubs won a European trophy and England won the World Cup, and reached the Semifinals at Euro 68.


In contrast the Scottish League 66-74 was won by Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, Celtic, and Celtic.

Consequently, despite being a top side, the Lisbon Lions were never truly tested on a weekly basis.
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I will give you that.

Even more of an achievement when you think their edge wouldn't be as honed when stepping up a class.

Won it in 67. Beaten Finalist 70, beaten semi finalist 74.

I think without that competitive advantage a better league would help you. Isn't that the perceived wisdom?
So having to do without that and still cutting it shows an even greater level of application.

That's the way I view that. Overcoming the disadvantage of not being tested your rivals enjoy, but still beating them.
 
Tim1980 said:
And the same thing happens now. We don't get tested on a weekly basis. When we play in Europe we have to massively raise our game. We have made good strides this year. If you watched the games you'd see that. Hopefully next year we don't get as rough a draw and can secure third place and maybe push for second.
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Fair enough mate.
I wasn't intending to fall out with Celtic fans. I was merely playing Devil's Advocate.
 
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