General UFC thread

Ain't going to happen, the talk is just hype and designed to maintain the UFC in the public's eye.
So in reality the UFC (now owned by WME/IMG) contacted Mauweathers PR team and got them to "challenge" one of their higher profile fighters into a boxing fight.

Mayweather gets exposure, remains relevant (book coming out or something)
And UFC maintain exposure in mainstream media and also attract the boxing audience into their product.

Mayweather would destroy most MMA fighters in his weight class in a boxing match.
In a MMA match I'd probably beat Mayweather as he'd be taken straight to the ground and submitted.
 
shevtheblue said:
Well i can't say i'm surprised tbh, i don't think Joe Silva is there anymore so it was probably Sean Shelby or one of the new guys that made this match up. It was bad match making IMHO.
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I am pretty new to watching it, i remember making an archive on an ftp starting at ufc 1 (still got access to that if anyone needs old classics) up to the current which was 165 at the time. I say that as i was familiar with the names and i remember Penn so he must be getting pretty old now. He may not have fought as far back as 165 but defo remember his name mentioned a long time ago.

That Rodriguez fella will kick your bastard head off, very impressive stuff i though. He came at him from all angles using all of his limbs to strike from different positions. The 1-2 times he caught one he seemed ok so he has some chin and is willing to take a crack so he can get stuck in. Possible future champ material? i really don't know em all but he seems good to me.
 
ancoats said:
Ronda's got what she went in the ring for last night money money never in a million years did she went for anything else. the other girl was hungry and wanted it more than money. am not saying its wrong and if anybody else in her shoes would do the same thing and making your money when you can is key to UFC its so fast and your peak is short and sometimes your in and out so fast and 1 slip or mistake you end up most of the times losing

UFC is a very hard sport and not many can fight bunch kick knee wrestle all in one sport and come of smelling of roses
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Can't say i agree with the first bit, Ronda is f*ckin loaded - not saying she isn't happy to make a shit tonne of money but she can make more sticking to Hollywood than she would fighting. But undeniably she did not give 100% to this fight, not that she thought it was an easy fight but more that she was already looking at leaving before she fought. IMO she's finished, but i don't personally think she should.
 
Why Always Ste said:
Ain't going to happen, the talk is just hype and designed to maintain the UFC in the public's eye.
So in reality the UFC (now owned by WME/IMG) contacted Mauweathers PR team and got them to "challenge" one of their higher profile fighters into a boxing fight.

Mayweather gets exposure, remains relevant (book coming out or something)
And UFC maintain exposure in mainstream media and also attract the boxing audience into their product.

Mayweather would destroy most MMA fighters in his weight class in a boxing match.
In a MMA match I'd probably beat Mayweather as he'd be taken straight to the ground and submitted.
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Did you see the video of Mac throwing some punches at Kavanaugh's (i think) hands? It looks beautiful for MMA but his movements for boxing are all wrong. I was listening to the JRE other day and they had Mauro and Bas on discussing Mac, Bas said if he was Aldo's coach he would have had him training all fight camp from southpaw and the gameplan being to kick the shit out of the lead leg as Mac's stance is not good for checking kicks. TBH i don't understand why fighters have not taken this tactic, although the in and out movement of Mac in counters is pretty fucking spectacular you can't hit what you can't reach and a leg is longer than an arm.
 
TCIB said:
I am pretty new to watching it, i remember making an archive on an ftp starting at ufc 1 (still got access to that if anyone needs old classics) up to the current which was 165 at the time. I say that as i was familiar with the names and i remember Penn so he must be getting pretty old now. He may not have fought as far back as 165 but defo remember his name mentioned a long time ago.

That Rodriguez fella will kick your bastard head off, very impressive stuff i though. He came at him from all angles using all of his limbs to strike from different positions. The 1-2 times he caught one he seemed ok so he has some chin and is willing to take a crack so he can get stuck in. Possible future champ material? i really don't know em all but he seems good to me.
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Well for a background on Penn, he was the first non brazilian to win at the BJJ world championship and if i remember correctly he did it at a purple belt which is bonkers. His nickname is the prodigy for that reason, the guy could pick up anything in combat sports and become a beast at it. There was a rumour going round that he got his purple black belt within the space of 3yrs, and this is a legit black belt not from one of those no name BJJ masters that are around the globe.
Penn was a lightweight but beat Matt Hughes at welterweight to take his belt, he then left UFC and he even fought Lyoto Machida (yes the same one that was light heavy weight champ) at heavyweight and lost in a controversial decision (he defo won). He then came back to UFC, had a few fights at bigger weights and dropped to lightweight and won that belt to become one of only a handful two weight champs.

Unfortunately his career has been riddled with a lack of motivation, he's from Hawaii and just likes to chill so getting motivated to kill himself for 6 months pre fight was always hard. He could have won so much more.
 
shevtheblue said:
Did you see the video of Mac throwing some punches at Kavanaugh's (i think) hands? It looks beautiful for MMA but his movements for boxing are all wrong. I was listening to the JRE other day and they had Mauro and Bas on discussing Mac, Bas said if he was Aldo's coach he would have had him training all fight camp from southpaw and the gameplan being to kick the shit out of the lead leg as Mac's stance is not good for checking kicks. TBH i don't understand why fighters have not taken this tactic, although the in and out movement of Mac in counters is pretty fucking spectacular you can't hit what you can't reach and a leg is longer than an arm.
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Would lead leg kick works so well on Conor? IIRC he has that back and forth 'bounce' motion, so a lot of the time he has very little weight on the ground.
 
Back and forth bounce seems to be bounce in engage and then bounce out of engagement. Timing mid point of that bounce would probably be what Bas was trying to get at, but Aldo's leg kicks are so hard i would suggest the damage would be there anyway.
 
Completely agree with the praise for Penn.
Superb fighter and definitely in my all time best fighter list.

The guy had a phenomenal ground game and I learnt so much from observing the way he fought.
 
Why Always Ste said:
Completely agree with the praise for Penn.
Superb fighter and definitely in my all time best fighter list.

The guy had a phenomenal ground game and I learnt so much from observing the way he fought.
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Penn deserves all the praise he gets, but IMO it should also come with some criticism. When he was training with the marinovich brothers he was the best BJ Penn we've ever seen, his skills were already there but his conditioning was at another level. I remember Kenny Florian trying to take him down over & over but getting nowhere near, that usually would have worn down BJ Penn but he came back and finished him. He's still one of the best EVA (ala Phil Baroni) but he should have been better.
 
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