You can ramble as much as you want - but it only demonstrates your incoherence and lack of honesty.
Really - no reference:
You have been pulled up for your views about how the Labour party should shed itself of voters 'not pure enough' previously - not just by me but also by plenty of others. In the General Politics thread there were a number of examples of it.
You just ranting on and on when you get exposed for being 'less than honest' is just, I suggest, a desperate attempt at denial/distraction. I would doubt that it fools anyone that is objective. Even those of the same view as you, whilst perhaps wanting to support you, i would think know that you are not being truthful.
I cannot access the GP thread now to lift examples but Damocles called you out correctly IMO when, within one of his posts on the 'Pay to see Corbyn thread he said:
"..................I can't stand "the likes of you" because you're apologists for terrible behaviour both within the Party and outside of it. It doesn't matter what the Party does or says or acts or votes or anything. All that matters is that as long as your unpopular and unelectable agenda is being served then you defend, defend, defend. And after some of your posts since Corbyn has been elected towards me,
@blueinsa, and many other traditionally Labour voters..........."
and
"So yes, of course I'm angry with Labour. I think you're not only sat around philosophising about the Party direction and
attempting to purge impurity but much, much more importantly than that, I think you're hypocrites who claim that you care for the working classes and the extreme poor but aren't willing to sacrifice an inch of ideology in order to attract the voters that will put us in a position where we can stop it. Your ideology is more important to you than the people. You're in this for the wrong reasons"
I hope that I am not breaking any forum rules by quoting another poster from another thread - if so - please someone advise and I will remove the quote.
But you see it is not - as you claim - that I post with nothing ".....other than your own prejudices......".
I just am willing to out hypocrisy for what it is. As I say your ranting is to no avail - too many on here are fully aware of your narrow views and prejudices. Your style to just shout others down will not be successful - because no amount of shouting can detract from the simple fact that the point that I was making to West Dids - not you - was fully correct.
But the facts do not bear any of this up.
Corbyn, would, in any other country in continental Europe, be considered a mainstream left wing politician, nothing he proposes puts him to the left of Harold Wilson, except nuclear disarmament, which even he admits will never pass, because there's not enough traction in the party or the country, in fact, in all other respects, Corbyn is well to the right of Wilson.
What you and Damocles are saying is Corbyn is to the left of Blair, which makes him de facto dangerously left.
As for haemorrhaging traditional Labour voters there is no evidence of that at all. A leader can only work with what he inherits, ask Vince Cable, Labour's fortunes in both membership and at the ballot box have grown under Corbyn, that is an undeniable fact. It is true he did not win in 2017, but no rational person could have expected a Labour victory, given where we were.
As for purging in a quest for ideological purity, there is no evidence whatsoever for any of that, in either the constituencies or Westminster. And a leader strengthening their position through the democratic mechanisms of their party, as Corbyn is doing, is par for the course, all leaders do this, but it is only considered dangerous and subversive if the left do it.
As for dark arts in politics, it's only your ignorance and prejudice that blinds you to the antics of the Blairites since Corbyn's election, the mass resignations, the second leadership election, the constant sniping, the media briefings, their party within a party antics. If the left had attempted even a fraction of the shit the Blairites have pulled off these last two years your head would've explode.
And of course you ignore what Clive Lewis and Jon Cruddas are doing, men who don't live in your alternate universe and are actively trying to heal the rift in the party, a rift which would not exist if the right of the party were in power. The left has, for a very long time, had to suck it up in the name of party unity, in the hope that the right, under what little pressure the left could apply, might just squeeze the odd progressive policy through while the Daily Mail wasn't looking. The left would not jeopardise the Labour party as the right are doing now. It's not the left destroying the Labour party in order to save it, it is the right, they're destroying the party in order to save it for themselves.
Your hatred of the left blinds you completely, for you everything they do is sinister and underhand, yet they have behaved with impeccable restraint, more than they should in my opinion, considering the outrageous behaviour of the right. But for you the right in the party are the good guys and the left the baddies, so any and all sorts of shit the right pulls off is okay, after all they're defending moderation, your moderation.
Your kind of moderation sees the market and its unrestrained operation as the highest form of human liberty, any attempt to constrain the market is a constraint on human freedom, so from your perspective a party that attempts to interfere with the market, in any way, is attacking freedom itself.
I can see why it is you shit your pants at the thought of Corbyn in number 10, but it's your attempt to convince us that the stink is really eau de cologne that's really repellent.