Love the way you call the Columbia win a draw but call the Croatia draw a defeat
We got knocked out after extra time of the World Cup semis
You probably hoped we’d get beat anyway
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England finish 4th.
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Love the way you call the Columbia win a draw but call the Croatia draw a defeat
We got knocked out after extra time of the World Cup semis
You probably hoped we’d get beat anyway
What midfield ?
We just dont have the reqd world class players to win either the WC or Euro's, thats why very few English players play abroad, theyre not in demand.
However the FA were lucky to get Southgate by default, a decent guy who has polished a turd.......... lets face it those morons at the FA wanted Big Sam and more 442 hoofball
The problem is our players rely on the de bruyne hazard Salah players to create
We have hard workers but no great quality
Gareth Southgate tube station ? It’s fucking embarrassing , some wanted a parade as well !France win the world cup and the manager gets a subway station named in his honour. England beat Tunisia and Panama and Southgate gets the same treatment.
What a bunch of deluded losers the fans and powers that be are.
We're the new Wales of international football.
BluessinceHydeRoad
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Before the world cup I said I would be disappointed in the extreme if England didn't get out of their group but that after that it all depended on the luck of the draw. The draw was rather kind and we got to the semis. The team and the manager deserve credit for actually winning matches which we didn't do in 2014, and managed only against Slovenia in 2010. In 2006 we won two matches - against Paraguay and Trinidad and Tobago! This world cup does represent real progress in that we beat a number of teams - that we should have beaten admittedly - quite convincingly (in the case of Tunisia on the balance of play rather than the scoreline) and the performance of the team did improve the national mood. They also avoided anything like the embarrassment of losing to Iceland, the dismal performances of Brazil, the humiliating goalless draw with Algeria and the abject thrashing dished out by Germany in 2010. We could actually enjoy this world cup unlike those of the recent , and not so recent past. We recorded our best ever finals win and looked unlike any England team for many a year. An England player won the Golden Boot for the first time since 1986 and only the second time ever.
What remains true, though, is that all the teams we beat were considerably lower in the FIFA rankings than we were. The team which eliminated us, Croatia, was well below us in the rankings. We still have not beaten a side which ranks higher than we do in the knock out rounds of any world cup or Euros outside England. We got to the semis legitimately by the only way possible in a knock out competition but I do not think for a moment that we are anything like the fourth best team in the world, any more than United, Chelsea, Southampton and Spurs were the four best teams in England last season.
There is much talk of the "legacy" of this team and many are already looking forward to the next Euros. That remains to be seen and I'm hoping for the best, but the real problem facing English football is the lack of qualified coaching for the young. The FA prides itself on its new facility, St George's, but as yet we have nowhere near as many coaches at work with the very young until the clubs become involved as the Dutch, Belgians, French, Germans, Spaniards etc etc. The results of their investment in coaching have brought clear and obvious results: our lack of investment has also brought clear and obvious results. The signs, with the under 17s especially, are encouraging but we still need massive intervention with the very young to get to where we believe we belong.
What remains true, though, is that all the teams we beat were considerably lower in the FIFA rankings than we were. The team which eliminated us, Croatia, was well below us in the rankings. We still have not beaten a side which ranks higher than we do in the knock out rounds of any world cup or Euros outside England. We got to the semis legitimately by the only way possible in a knock out competition but I do not think for a moment that we are anything like the fourth best team in the world, any more than United, Chelsea, Southampton and Spurs were the four best teams in England last season.
There is much talk of the "legacy" of this team and many are already looking forward to the next Euros. That remains to be seen and I'm hoping for the best, but the real problem facing English football is the lack of qualified coaching for the young. The FA prides itself on its new facility, St George's, but as yet we have nowhere near as many coaches at work with the very young until the clubs become involved as the Dutch, Belgians, French, Germans, Spaniards etc etc. The results of their investment in coaching have brought clear and obvious results: our lack of investment has also brought clear and obvious results. The signs, with the under 17s especially, are encouraging but we still need massive intervention with the very young to get to where we believe we belong.
SpiritofBurnden
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What remains true, though, is that all the teams we beat were considerably lower in the FIFA rankings than we were.
Depends what you mean by 'considerably lower'.
Colombia were only 4 places below us in the FIFA rankings.
Tunisia were 9 places below us and Sweden 12 places below us.
World Champions Germany were beaten by a team 56 places below them...
Depends what you mean by 'considerably lower'.
Colombia were only 4 places below us in the FIFA rankings.
Tunisia were 9 places below us and Sweden 12 places below us.
World Champions Germany were beaten by a team 56 places below them...
That's more down to peculiar FIFA rankings. Does anyone really think Tunisia are a better team than South Korea, let alone 30 or so places superior?
The rankings are nonsense. In order to climb up them, you don't play friendlies against high ranking teams. Even the footballing genius Martinez worked that out.Depends what you mean by 'considerably lower'.
Colombia were only 4 places below us in the FIFA rankings.
Tunisia were 9 places below us and Sweden 12 places below us.
World Champions Germany were beaten by a team 56 places below them...
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That may be the case, but the poster he was replying to seems to think they're relevant. Which means SpiritofBurnden makes a valid point.The rankings are nonsense. In order to climb up them, you don't play friendlies against high ranking teams. Even the footballing genius Martinez worked that out.
The reaction to England's world cup performance has been so predictable. It starts with some people going overboard about what an incredible achievement it was, which sparks an inevitable overreaction from another group of people saying how shit England were.
The truth clearly lies somewhere between those two extremes, but the middle ground is never a particularly popular place on internet forums, no matter what subject is being discussed.
They're both wrong then because it is the case.That may be the case, but the poster he was replying to seems to think they're relevant. Which means SpiritofBurnden makes a valid point.
The reaction to England's world cup performance has been so predictable. It starts with some people going overboard about what an incredible achievement it was, which sparks an inevitable overreaction from another group of people saying how shit England were.
The truth clearly lies somewhere between those two extremes, but the middle ground is never a particularly popular place on internet forums, no matter what subject is being discussed.
jayfx
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I hoped that we would win but the reality is the only decent side we played beat us. Twice!Love the way you call the Columbia win a draw but call the Croatia draw a defeat
We got knocked out after extra time of the World Cup semis
You probably hoped we’d get beat anyway