Next James Bond?

Studios reboot all the time and, as said before, the origin can still the origin, but the role be adapted as a code name for a new agent going into the future.

They do reboot all the time and I have not said that Elba shouldn't be the next Bond. However, I'm one of those people that would like to see them "reboot" by setting the movies back in the past with a very traditional James Bond. I'm also a guy who had James Bond wallpaper in his bedroom when he was eight years old so my image of what Bond should look like (Sean Connery) is deeply embedded.
 
I don't think he's charming enough to be Bond tbh, just as Daniel Craig wasn't either. Craig was good as the young, brash Bond in Casino Royale, but beyond that he was awful and not a good fit at all. Also there is a pretty limited amount of situations where you can put a giant black guy in and have him "undercover" (even if Bond is notoriously the worst "secret" agent ever)

For me, a Bond has to be charming, funny, but at the same time not look ridiculous in a fight (looking at you Moore) and I don't think Elba fits that bill. In my opinion, only really Connery and Brosnan have been right so far. Not sure who the next one should be as none of the suggested ones I've seen seem quite right (although all of them sound better than Craig)
 
People are passionate about things.

I personally couldn't give a shit what race James Bond's actor is because I'm not particularly a Bond fan.

However if Luke Skywalker was in a new film and he was a black-Japanese woman then I'd probably give it a miss and think they're taking the mick. I remember when WWF "re-cast" Razor Ramon from Scott Hall to Rick Bognor for a couple of weeks and it irritated the hell out of me.

Fictional characters are admittedly fictional, but the reason why their movies sell is because people form some type emotional bonds with them. You care about your protagonists which is why drama in their character arc and danger in action scenes matter. Without the emotional connection you're just watching some fast moving photographs.

People have an idea of what James Bond is in their head and they've formed some sort of emotional connection to that ideal. One of the ways in which we describe fictional characters is by how they look - now Bond is an exception here as he has been played by numerous actors but they're all vaguely middle aged white males with an air of sophistication and a glint in the eye for comedy puns. It's a blurrier image but it's still an image.

I don't care if they're changing the image of a character that I don't particularly care about but I'm not going to say I can't understand it. If City changed their playing strip/main colour to green instead of blue, would that matter in the scheme of things? Well probably not. But I'd be pissed off with it because the visual image in my head of what Man City looks like is tinted with blue.

People don't like other people fucking about with the visuals of symbols that they care about. It's not even a race thing - numerous people have given up on Doctor Who because they changed her into a woman. They changed the main character in Ghost in the Shell from an Asian woman to a white woman and it wrecked the film for people. They completely fucked up Deadpool in the Wolverine movie and it led to an outrage large enough that they managed to turn this into a Deadpool movie.

It's understandable.

Good post.

However with the City analogy you could well relate it to the badge. We have had numerous amendments and whilst it caused much discussion and debate on the whole there isn’t been any outrage. So the character of bond is the blue, that doesn’t change ie a British agent with a penchant for fast cars, women and a shite pun. The actor playing bond, the badge, does change and we have strayed from the original design quite significantly (phoenix and three stars for example although there have been constants. Other clubs, Juventus a recent example have not even kept any link to historical incarnations).

So really the blue matters. The badge not so much. In my mind I always thought James Bond was a moniker for the 007 agent, and whoever is allocated that number takes the name not that there is a constant James Bond. I think Elba would make a good Bond.

Anyway I’m not that arsed just killing time til kick off.
 
Bond has been overtaken by the Bourne movies, which were a far more modern and realistic update for 21st Century espionage/spy/action movies, and lets not forget the Mission Impossible series, which bar a duff 2nd instalment have been more entertaining than some of the Bond movies of recent times.
 
They do reboot all the time and I have not said that Elba shouldn't be the next Bond. However, I'm one of those people that would like to see them "reboot" by setting the movies back in the past with a very traditional James Bond. I'm also a guy who had James Bond wallpaper in his bedroom when he was eight years old so my image of what Bond should look like (Sean Connery) is deeply embedded.
James Bond wallpaper - how have I never seen this?

I would have demanded that in years gone by
 
James Bond wallpaper - how have I never seen this?

I would have demanded that in years gone by

Well it was the 1960's. Not even sure if I chose it - although I was a big Bond fan at that age. It was followed by some sort of football related wallpaper (generic not club specific), which I also don't recall choosing. I did insist eventually on having the walls and ceiling of my bedroom painted black!
 
People are passionate about things.

I personally couldn't give a shit what race James Bond's actor is because I'm not particularly a Bond fan.

However if Luke Skywalker was in a new film and he was a black-Japanese woman then I'd probably give it a miss and think they're taking the mick. I remember when WWF "re-cast" Razor Ramon from Scott Hall to Rick Bognor for a couple of weeks and it irritated the hell out of me.

Fictional characters are admittedly fictional, but the reason why their movies sell is because people form some type emotional bonds with them. You care about your protagonists which is why drama in their character arc and danger in action scenes matter. Without the emotional connection you're just watching some fast moving photographs.

People have an idea of what James Bond is in their head and they've formed some sort of emotional connection to that ideal. One of the ways in which we describe fictional characters is by how they look - now Bond is an exception here as he has been played by numerous actors but they're all vaguely middle aged white males with an air of sophistication and a glint in the eye for comedy puns. It's a blurrier image but it's still an image.

I don't care if they're changing the image of a character that I don't particularly care about but I'm not going to say I can't understand it. If City changed their playing strip/main colour to green instead of blue, would that matter in the scheme of things? Well probably not. But I'd be pissed off with it because the visual image in my head of what Man City looks like is tinted with blue.

People don't like other people fucking about with the visuals of symbols that they care about. It's not even a race thing - numerous people have given up on Doctor Who because they changed her into a woman. They changed the main character in Ghost in the Shell from an Asian woman to a white woman and it wrecked the film for people. They completely fucked up Deadpool in the Wolverine movie and it led to an outrage large enough that they managed to turn this into a Deadpool movie.

It's understandable.
Spot on, old chap
 
Johnny Depp to bring a Keith Richard-referencing 007 to the Bond franchise? Might work. (Apologies to all you Bond aficionados.)
 
Well it was the 1960's. Not even sure if I chose it - although I was a big Bond fan at that age. It was followed by some sort of football related wallpaper (generic not club specific), which I also don't recall choosing. I did insist eventually on having the walls and ceiling of my bedroom painted black!
Feeling a bit short changed with the glow-in-the-dark space man wallpaper I got as a kid (which to be fair i thought was alright at the time).

Now that my eyes have been opened to '''what could have been' though........ ;-)
 
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People are passionate about things.

I personally couldn't give a shit what race James Bond's actor is because I'm not particularly a Bond fan.

However if Luke Skywalker was in a new film and he was a black-Japanese woman then I'd probably give it a miss and think they're taking the mick. I remember when WWF "re-cast" Razor Ramon from Scott Hall to Rick Bognor for a couple of weeks and it irritated the hell out of me.

Fictional characters are admittedly fictional, but the reason why their movies sell is because people form some type emotional bonds with them. You care about your protagonists which is why drama in their character arc and danger in action scenes matter. Without the emotional connection you're just watching some fast moving photographs.

People have an idea of what James Bond is in their head and they've formed some sort of emotional connection to that ideal. One of the ways in which we describe fictional characters is by how they look - now Bond is an exception here as he has been played by numerous actors but they're all vaguely middle aged white males with an air of sophistication and a glint in the eye for comedy puns. It's a blurrier image but it's still an image.

I don't care if they're changing the image of a character that I don't particularly care about but I'm not going to say I can't understand it. If City changed their playing strip/main colour to green instead of blue, would that matter in the scheme of things? Well probably not. But I'd be pissed off with it because the visual image in my head of what Man City looks like is tinted with blue.

People don't like other people fucking about with the visuals of symbols that they care about. It's not even a race thing - numerous people have given up on Doctor Who because they changed her into a woman. They changed the main character in Ghost in the Shell from an Asian woman to a white woman and it wrecked the film for people. They completely fucked up Deadpool in the Wolverine movie and it led to an outrage large enough that they managed to turn this into a Deadpool movie.

It's understandable.

Your 'Doctor Who' analogy is poor. The half alien being had the regeneration ability to be anything of humanoid form, as alluded to by David Tennant in his beginning turn, feeling himself all over and being pleasantly 'surprised' [and 13 re-generations are allowed according to canon, which makes Whittaker the final one]!

The fact that the character has been a man, until now, is down to the peer and financial pressure resisting change.

Characters stagnate and if it's feasible to do and is okay within the realms of a working prognosis to change it up, why not...?
 

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