UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Deleted member 77198]

Supporters = Customers. The more customers you have the more money you make in gate receipts and commercial revenue. The more money you can earn the better chance of success. It's not rocket science.

But for all these clubs that have the most customers, you can go back to a certain point in time where they had huge outside investment to get them to the top.

There’s nothing more special about Liverpool as a city than Sheffield Bristol Portsmouth or Bradford or many other places. Liverpool isn’t a particularly big place. Liverpool FC are only a big club because back in the late 1950s they had huge investment and went on a few decades of winning a load of trophies. There’s nothing special about that. So there’s no reason that by 2119 that Sheffield United, Bristol City, Portsmouth or Bradford City can’t be as big as Liverpool were in 1985 or they are now.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

The scum were shit for most of their history and poor gates to boot!

Pre-war, certainly. Since the 1950s United have been the best supported club in the country averaging over 55k at times when the best of the rest averaged around 40k.

But pre-war they had average attendances of 11-14k.

Things change. No club is special. No club with a big support now means that support will remain going on forever.

Charlton had one of the best ever average attendances in this country back in the 1930s. It didn’t last.

But all a club needs is good investment to kick start a trophy run and their support will change. There’s no reason why that can’t be ANY club.

 

[oakiecokie]

I have no idea what you're talking about here. Are you going back 50 years or talking about the present?

You`re new on here aren`t you ?

 

[Stoned Rose]

Liverpool were built on sugardaddies' in more than one period.

Most of the 'elite' teams now, benefitted from the same, at different times in their history. Without that charity, many would have disappeared.

Only in the last ten years, did rich owners investing if football teams become a bad thing.

Nobody gave a flying fuck, for example, when John Hall bought a team for Newcastle.

Utd fans cheered Michael Knighton as he promised to buy them players. The investment then, would be billions now by comparison. That enabled them to buy the Premier League & be a Champions League team, which is why they.are so rich now.

They would fail FFP ten times over attempting that level of spending now.

Nobody cared. They loved it. Sky loved it.

Then all those clubs got together to protect themselves, from others doing the same.

FFP.

‘Elite’ post this mate.

Colossal.

 

[Goatmeal]

If they brought in FFP to purely prevent clubs from going bankrupt, they could have made the rules so simple.
I.e As long as there is always enough money in the clubs bank account to cover three years of player salaries then a club should be able to spend what they want.
If the owners walk away then the worst case is there is enough money in the bank to pay the players until most of their contracts run down.
Then realign the club according to the self generating income.
Therefore our owners could just bang around £900m as a back up fund into the clubs account.
Job done and so easy to police.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Pre-war, certainly. Since the 1950s United have been the best supported club in the country averaging over 55k at times when the best of the rest averaged around 40k.

But pre-war they had average attendances of 11-14k.

Things change. No club is special. No club with a big support now means that support will remain going on forever.

Charlton had one of the best ever average attendances in this country back in the 1930s. It didn’t last.

But all a club needs is good investment to kick start a trophy run and their support will change. There’s no reason why that can’t be ANY club.

Funny that, in the sixties l watched City with 60 thou regularly and as I've said previously
It was only GMP that put restrictions on our attendances.!

 

[NorCalBlue]

There’s nothing more special about Liverpool as a city than Sheffield Bristol Portsmouth or Bradford or many other places.

Take that back right now! They have a special knowledge of the game and a special sense of humor - everyone knows that.

 

[JGL07]

Monaco spent fortunes for years playing in front of 10,000 crowds, hardly an example of spending within your means.

10,000 in their dreams!

Monaco generally average 7,500 to 8,500. Although they have topped 9,000 a couple of times.

In their last season in Ligue 2 back in 2011-12, they pulled in an average of 4,458.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

Monaco’s ex-manager Arsehole Wenger and his constant whinging and labelling City as being financially doped. Never said a fucking word whilst managing the biggest financially doped side in Europe. What a fucking whopper.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Too many capital U's over the last few pages rags is written with a lowercase r.

Thank you ;)