Nationalisation..

[malg]

If the state ran a café, it would be closed 12:00 - 14:00 for staff to take their lunch. The Unions would strike, demanding an extra lunch hour hour on elf n safety grounds. Outside those hours, customers would be welcome on payment of a compulsory 25% service charge to pay for ill health early retirement at age 50. Management would be cowering in the bog, checking for a pair of bollocks in the misted mirror while secretly hoping for the same deal.

Meanwhile the regulator gives an “outstanding” rating, allows the top brass a tasty bonus and picks up an OBE for 30 years’ stagnation (excluding 5 years on paid sick leave) in a failing organisation.

Bring it fcukin on.

Funny and probably true in parts.

 

[malg]

Fair play to the fella he's now on about local councils not contracting out services. Bins, school meals etc. That will be interesting. I think he should go one step further and get all the NHS PFI contracts bought out.

The one thing about all this is that there is clear blue water between the parties.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Actually, yes.

Because, well, no reason really, eh? They worked hard to get ahead in life and others didn’t, so let’s have a big fucking whip round and run the country like it’s the Good Samaritan’s!

And you wonder why you look around and see nothing but a widening disparity?!

 

[Stuuuuuu]

Because, well, no reason really, eh? They worked hard to get ahead in life and others didn’t, so let’s have a big fucking whip round and run the country like it’s the Good Samaritan’s!

And you wonder why you look around and see nothing but a widening disparity?!

So do nurses and teachers not work hard?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

So do nurses and teachers not work hard?

Nice distraction and obfuscation, but I’ll play nonetheless...

I’m sure most nurses and teachers do work hard. What’s the point???

Did they not KNOW they were signing on to do a govt job that might be caught in the political crossfire? If not, then they were probably not best suited for a job with such responsibilities in the first place.

And, I have family members who do both things. They CHOSE those jobs. One is about to retire with a healthy pension, too.

 

[urban genie]

The greeks in vened tax and the origibal philosophly was you paid of your own free will.

However ancient greek society expected those more well off would pay the bulk as those who prospered owed it to those who toiled and made them rich

Taxation was always about providing infrastructure while not hampering economic growth and stability, making the majority who provide the labour pay substantially more than those at the top weakens the system.

I blame the dutch and their tulips. ;-)

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The greeks in vened tax and the origibal philosophly was you paid of your own free will.

However ancient greek society expected those more well off would pay the bulk as those who prospered owed it to those who toiled and made them rich

Taxation was always about providing infrastructure while not hampering economic growth and stability, making the majority who provide the labour pay substantially more than those at the top weakens the system.

I blame the dutch and their tulips. ;-)

1) Draw a normal distribution curve of annual incomes.
2) Look where the hump is and look slightly to the right (slightly higher than normal incomes).
3) That’s where the bulk of the population/money is.
4) Tax them.
5) If anyone asks why you can’t move the bulk of the taxes further to the right, where there is less people but more money, explain to them that those are the people who make all the jobs and if you tax them anymore, they will stop and we will all be fucked. Mention “The Laffer Curve” because most don’t know what it is and those that do often can’t explain it, so that sorts out the malcontents.

Et voila! A tax system that is ridiculously hard to change, especially once everyone starts getting some bennies from it!!

Insert sarcastic smiley here!

 

[urban genie]

1) Draw a normal distribution curve of annual incomes.
2) Look where the hump is and look slightly to the right (slightly higher than normal incomes).
3) That’s where the bulk of the population/money is.
4) Tax them.
5) If anyone asks why you can’t move the bulk of the taxes further to the right, where there is less people but more money, explain to them that those are the people who make all the jobs and if you tax them anymore, they will stop and we will all be fucked. Mention “The Laffer Curve” because most don’t know what it is and those that do often can’t explain it, so that sorts out the malcontents.

Et voila! A tax system that is ridiculously hard to change, especially once everyone starts getting done bennies from it!!

Insert sarcastic smiley here!

All them years in the rotten part of the continental americas has corrupted you get over to the sensible countries, the canada, greenland, barbados, cuba etc ;-)

 

[Stuuuuuu]

Nice distraction and obfuscation, but I’ll play nonetheless...

I’m sure most nurses and teachers do work hard. What’s the point???

Did they not KNOW they were signing on to do a govt job that might be caught in the political crossfire? If not, then they were probably not best suited for a job with such responsibilities in the first place.

And, I have family members who do both things. They CHOSE those jobs. One is about to retire with a healthy pension, too.

What a depressing post to wake up to. I'm regularly staggered by the attitude of many people but, at the same time, I can't say I'm surprised.

So I think you're essentially saying that good, caring people should be punished for doing good things. After all, it's their own choice.

Let's just have no nurses and teachers, eh? Silly nurses and teachers.

 

[inbetween]

The greeks in vened tax and the origibal philosophly was you paid of your own free will.

However ancient greek society expected those more well off would pay the bulk as those who prospered owed it to those who toiled and made them rich

Taxation was always about providing infrastructure while not hampering economic growth and stability, making the majority who provide the labour pay substantially more than those at the top weakens the system.

I blame the dutch and their tulips. ;-)

And look where Greece are now...

There's a massive socialist bloke at work, big into Corbyn etc. His most recent discussion was the greedy bankers, Amazon etc.

The other day he went into how to avoid the capital gains tax on the house investment he has....

It soon changes when it involves them and their money.