Believe it or not the direction of the pass doesn't actually matter. You can be offside from a backwards pass.
Var debate 2019/20
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tolmie's hairdoo
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So which is it, incidents are viewed in real time by VAR or not?
Swardick says that is the case, so how would anyone have seen a supposed handball from Laporte?
Oliver didn't.
It can only have been ascertained by confirmation bias and slow motion replays on loop.
Swardick states Oliver made the call on Rodri in real time, not VAR, yet proceeds to then provide his view that Rodri dived and they came to the same conclusion on VAR. Bastards are covering each others' backs and getting stories straight during actual play.
Mic this bastards up, just like NFL and Rugby, there is no accountability (which is convenient, considering Swardick proudly states there have only been five overturns out of 20 so far this season and we have been involved in three)
Wolves' equaliser against United was offside, based on the margins of Sterling last week and Jesus this week, no doubts about that. They bottled it because of the perception and controversy it would have caused, coming so soon after our late 'winner'.
And, for the matter of balance, I have watched it back a few times and I think Sergio was offside for our second goal last weekend.
Swardick says that is the case, so how would anyone have seen a supposed handball from Laporte?
Oliver didn't.
It can only have been ascertained by confirmation bias and slow motion replays on loop.
Swardick states Oliver made the call on Rodri in real time, not VAR, yet proceeds to then provide his view that Rodri dived and they came to the same conclusion on VAR. Bastards are covering each others' backs and getting stories straight during actual play.
Mic this bastards up, just like NFL and Rugby, there is no accountability (which is convenient, considering Swardick proudly states there have only been five overturns out of 20 so far this season and we have been involved in three)
Wolves' equaliser against United was offside, based on the margins of Sterling last week and Jesus this week, no doubts about that. They bottled it because of the perception and controversy it would have caused, coming so soon after our late 'winner'.
And, for the matter of balance, I have watched it back a few times and I think Sergio was offside for our second goal last weekend.
bobbyowenquiff
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Well so far no one has produced any statements other than the ones published on the FA and IFAB websites and re-published on here. In these there is a discrepancy between the FA advice and what the IFAB rules actually say. Neil Swarbrick claimed on Radio 5 that the officials here were bound by the IFAB rules. Something does not add up.
Florida Blue
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Castles shows what is presented on the Premier league website is NOT the same as the IFAB guidelines.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECMk65LX4A8Lfix?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Duncan CastlesVerified account @DuncanCastles Aug 17
Replying to @dannyjbradders @TransferPodcast and
Sorry, but what is presented on the Premier League webaite is not the Law of the game. There is only one handball Law and it’s the one written by IFAB (under the influence of the Premier League, in this case). You can read them here: http://www.theifab.com/laws
Amazing a united supporting journo has done his homework on it and nobody else.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECMk65LX4A8Lfix?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Duncan CastlesVerified account @DuncanCastles Aug 17
Replying to @dannyjbradders @TransferPodcast and
Sorry, but what is presented on the Premier League webaite is not the Law of the game. There is only one handball Law and it’s the one written by IFAB (under the influence of the Premier League, in this case). You can read them here: http://www.theifab.com/laws
Amazing a united supporting journo has done his homework on it and nobody else.
tolmie's hairdoo
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Swardick also claims City players were sat in the dressing room at the Etihad in mid-July having the rules explained to them.
We were in China?
We were in China?
FantasyIreland
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Spot on,ive been saying exactly that.
The goal should not have stood given the precedent they have set.
kaz7
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They said every thing reviewed in real time so they are breaking what was promised,if it was a dive why did they need to look at it multiple times? looking for a reason to say no ****s
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blueinsa
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2 games into the season and already they are battling to save face over the use and introduction of tech that is clearly not for for purpose right now (offsides) or its interpretation by the same officials that still apply their own slants and bias on to a decision meaning that teams will never be treated fairly or impartially.
Get rid and lets go back to the ref and his linesman.
Get rid and lets go back to the ref and his linesman.
Sergio was behind the ball but admittedly in front of the defender. You cannot be offside if you are level or behind the ball when it is played regardless of the position of any opposition player so he was onside.
Chi-town blues
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You know something isn't right when even Duncan the rag Castles is on our side :)
Duncan Castles
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This is the new handball law that cost Manchester City a win today. Not entirely convinced it has been correctly applied by the VAR. Did Aymeric Laporte either ‘gain possession’ or ‘control of the ball’? No, the ball bounced straight off him.
Didn’t Laporte create a goal scoring opportunity (albeit accidentally) via the ball hitting his arm?
Duncan Castles
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Aug 17Doesn’t matter. As the Law is framed Laporte first has to gain possession/control of the ball and THEN create a goal-scoring opportunity to be penalised. As he did not do the former, he should not be penalised under this Law.
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Aug 17Second week of the Premier League season; second demonstration of the absurdity of the new handball rule. Manchester City comprehensively outplay Tottenham, but lose two points for a foul no one on the pitch saw.
First of all , is there any clear footage that shows Laporte handled the ball ?
From what I’ve seen so far it deflected from spuds player . Loris would be the first one to appeal if it came off Laporte but non of the spuds players reacted instead the smirk on loris face after decision says it all.