billymumphrey
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Rogue One was the best Star Wars film imo. I don't think camp humour belongs in a film with such stakes. You can have humour certainly, i mean the droid in Rogue One was funny af. There needs to be a certain tone though. The "droid rights" stuff was a weak attempt mixing humour with social politics as an example in tlj. I like gritty films with Rogue One giving me my grit fix. You get the right amount of character development and arcs. There is urgent and immediate threat throughout the film with Vader being shown as the super powerful unstoppable entity who rightly scares the shit out of everyone who is not him. I won't lie i was giddy as a pig in shit when he appeared at the end and fucked them all up.
I was very impressed with the end, if Jyn Urso kissed Cassian it would have shit on so much it aimed to achieve. It felt like a real universe, i felt like there were big fuck off battles happening all over the galaxy, it felt more real than any other film. I was sick of pristine palaces, i wanted people crawling in mud towards certain death.
Respectfully disagree. Where were the characters motivation and back stories? It was completely disjointed. We know that all the main characters die, simply because they are not mentioned at all in the original trilogy, therefore they need to establish why we as the audience actually give a shit about them. What happens to Jyn to change her mind that the plan is worth executing? Nothing. We have Cassian say "we've all made sacrifices for this" but the film does not delve into this so we dont know whats at stake, why he is motivated to do what he's doing apart from being a generic 'hero' in qa dirty dozen type suicide mission.
The mis-alignment in tone between the ending in this and the start of a New Hope is jarring in the extreme considered one starts a few hours after the end of the other. Knowing the ANH is canon, it is clear that the Vader scene is purely there for fan service, nothing else. The scene itself doesnt even make sense and has fundamental flaws in it such as why Vader doesn't just force grab the plans from the rebel soldiers hands. Noting all this it/s clear to see this scene for the cynical exercise it was.