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The question after tonight is Southgate morphing into Keegan ?
I think that's a little harsh, he is a bit reactionary, and I agree he might not be the brightest, but he is a capable footballer, what he needs is a good coach (like Pep) that can get into his head (in simple terms), and I think he'd be a pretty good player.
I'm not sure Barkley has the defensive discipline, that "team first" mentality that we'd want from a number 6. He switches off defensively for club(remember that gift he gave to Aguero last season?) and country.I've no great interest in England, though I will watch it if its on, and there are things about Rice, and Barkley that I like, though Barkley does look to have a stupid error in him in every game, and Rice managed it tonight. Henderson though is just terrible, really adds nothing to England. The defence tonight were also dreadful, all of them at some point.
Always looks a tad over weight and not quite at the peak of fitness, there is a top class midfielder in there in my opinion doubt if he'll ever be as good as he should be.I think that's a little harsh, he is a bit reactionary, and I agree he might not be the brightest, but he is a capable footballer, what he needs is a good coach (like Pep) that can get into his head (in simple terms), and I think he'd be a pretty good player.
I wouldn't use him there to be honest, and Southgate doesn't either, I think he's better used with attacking intent, but can drop back and play that role in the required circumstances, but he's sadly lacking a decent coach, maybe Lampard can do that given time, at least he knows the role.I'm not sure Barkley has the defensive discipline, that "team first" mentality that we'd want from a number 6.
I agree, so needs a good coach to get in his head.I think Barkley is more in the mould of Oxlade Chamberlain, doesn't provide enough assists or key passes to be considered a playmaker, has all the greediness of a striker on the ball(can take players on) without the goal return... so not quite a striker either. Both good players that catch the eyes with dribbling runs and the odd spectacular goal but I'd rather have purposeful players that fit the system personally.
Perhaps but there needs to be the willingness to learn a different side of your game, the hunger to do it, as Pep would say. I guess none of the players under Sarri showed that hunger but I didn't see him improve much under him. If we are just limiting it to only Pep or Klopp who can do this, then that's giving the players too much slack for me.I agree, so needs a good coach to get in his head.
Once a **** always a ****.Hoddle is and always will be a prize one, horrible human being. You think his second chance at life would have maybe improved him as a human but unfortunately not.
Sterlings last 8 England games ...8 goals 4 assistsWTF is hoddle going on about in this analysis, effectively blaming the wingers for not defending their fullbacks ? Sterling was often in the RB position tonight, and started attacks from there.
Oh and Sterling "shanked it" to set up Sancho, dear god.
England's best no. 6......Delphinho.Barkley has the IQ of a kumquat. He’s totally reactionary and should be nowhere near the national team.
Henderson is a poor man’s Milner. What he lacks in technique he replaces with desire, but I agree that moving forward, he isn’t the answer either.
We’ve got Mount, Maddison and Foden to come in for Barkley and Henderson, but there is a dearth of talent at number 6.