Bill , I’ve got to be honest and say that even I have struggled to get motivated to go to one or two matches in the past and maybe subconsciously only eventually gone just so I got my 40 points to keep my place on the “loyalty league table”and that’s how I got to just shy of 25k points . I was also wondering if it had a bearing on why in the previous 4 trips to the Ukraine we took 6/700 but this time ( the first trip with no points ) we’re taking circa 150 , but most repliers on here think it’s a silly suggestion