Gundogan as an attacking midfielder

Not for me. It is a team of 11 who all contribute to both success and failure. Pinning it on one, maybe two is just scapegoating after a poor all round performance
Agree but I do no blame Gundogan for other players performances nor do most on here.
Just a stat that shows our win rate with him and Silva,who's form is hit and miss as well now.
 
and what about the others, did they all have collective mares because Gundo was playing - seriously?
No they didn't. But it's some kind of a chain reaction, when Mahrez is left isolated Aguero and Sterling will probably have a tougher game since they will get less service and the opponents can overload on Sterling. If Mahrez struggles maybe our right back will try to take more/too much offensive responsibility. I'm not saying this is the reason they play badly and maybe others being shite also affected Gundogan in a bad way but when you look at the stats is obvious that our team is playing poorly when Gundogan (and Silva) plays as an advanced midfielder.
 
and what about the others, did they all have collective mares because Gundo was playing - seriously?
It's about City having the right balance of players to play the possession game we need to create chances, and protect our defence.

Gundogan is a good player but put the three of David Silva, and Rodri together and I don't think it works. It's odd when we have a shortage of experienced players that we didn't go for the star of last season Bernardo.
 
So, others poor performances yesterday were down to Ilkay, is that what you are saying? - really!

Yes, he was a massive part of the problem.

We’ve been the best team in the history of the competition with Fernandinho, Silva and DeBruyne in midfield. And last season with Fernandinho, Silva and Bernado.

But our record when Gundogan plays as an 8 is that of a mid table team. And that of a relegation threatened team when Gundogan plays alongside Silva.

it doesn’t take a genius to work out why.

We need energy in midfield. We need someone who presses with insane intensity. Someone who is such a treat going forward that the opposition worry about them and it frees up space for Silva.

Gundogan just sitting there doing no pressing, constantly playing square and backwards, offering absolutely nothing going forward other than the occasional chipped ball down the middle, it’s not enough.

The opposition don’t have to worry about getting pressed. They don’t have to worry about Gundogan hurting them, so they just double up on Silva.

It’s not rocket science mate, just watch any game where Gundogan plays as an 8. We’re invariably shite. And according to the stats, we invariably drop points.

So to answer your question, yes, playing Gundogan as an 8 affects the entire team.
 
This scapegoating of Gundo is disgraceful. He is always the top at number of intercepted balls and turnovers, recycles the ball, keeps the shape of the team,...,the reason why Pep keeps him in the team, but so many years after Edin has been gone, bluemoon needs a new Scapegoat.
Gundog at the base of a midfield with Bernardo has worked. Why did we try and re-invent the wheel?
 
Yes, he was a massive part of the problem.

We’ve been the best team in the history of the competition with Fernandinho, Silva and DeBruyne in midfield. And last season with Fernandinho, Silva and Bernado.

But our record when Gundogan plays as an 8 is that of a mid table team. And that of a relegation threatened team when Gundogan plays alongside Silva.

it doesn’t take a genius to work out why.

We need energy in midfield. We need someone who presses with insane intensity. Someone who is such a treat going forward that the opposition worry about them and it frees up space for Silva.

Gundogan just sitting there doing no pressing, constantly playing square and backwards, offering absolutely nothing going forward other than the occasional chipped ball down the middle, it’s not enough.

The opposition don’t have to worry about getting pressed. They don’t have to worry about Gundogan hurting them, so they just double up on Silva.

It’s not rocket science mate, just watch any game where Gundogan plays as an 8. We’re invariably shite. And according to the stats, we invariably drop points.

So to answer your question, yes, playing Gundogan as an 8 affects the entire team.

Prob too soon after yesterdays game to get reasoned arguments atm. I will leave you and others to continue scapegoating one player believing he was the sole reason for all 11 having an off game. Only on BM
 

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