UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Any chance of a précis PB. Paywall in operation
Here's the worst bit:
Then, over four days, German magazine Der Spiegel published dozens of hacked emails between senior figures at City that painted a very different picture of just how compliant City had been.

While the finer details of FFP are complicated, the basic premise is simple: clubs should only spend as much as they earn. What Der Spiegel laid out was an elaborate scheme — dubbed Operation Longbow, a reference to plucky England’s earlier triumphs in Europe — to hide how much money City’s owner Sheikh Mansour was funneling into the club, against the rules, artificially reducing the cost of running such a fabulous team in their accounts.
 
I had this weird thought of dinner, it’s all bollocks so don’t laugh


Just supposing City surreptitiously put Pinto the hacker up to releasing our own ‘doctored’ emails to Der Speigal
He’s admitted to not doing the hacking but has agreed he passed them on to third parties.

just supposing these ‘hacked’ emails were also passed on to Gill and Parry. And furthermore these emails contained information City knew were complete bollocks and would show who had used Pinto to further their campaigns against City

could be the greatest sting since Redford last teamed up with Newman

could be that operation longbow was an arrow aimed at the heart of English corruption
 
ha ha

what we are being accused of ?
Are we being investigated or not ?
who actually instigated the whole issue ?

:-)

A German Newspaper, De Speigel" was given stolen/hacked emails from Manchester City (and lots of other clubs) The hacker is under arrest in Portugal facing charges for extortion
City have always said they will not comment on out of context materials purported to have been hacked or stolen from City Football Group

Der Speigel released some details from these emails, which suggested that our owner gave Etihad the money to sponsor us
Now although this technically isn't against UEFA FFP regulations, it is claimed by Der Speigel that these hacked e mails prove that City failed to declare this to UEFA, so have broken FFP regulations
This payment goes back to 2014 and if UEFA were to charge us they had a certain time limit
UEFA asked City for information and we submitted documentation, however UEFA, knowing they were short on time, found us at fault,(If I remember correctly on the final day they could) and passed this up their ladder (This is the "IC" investigatory chamber, passing it to the "AC" Adjudicatory Chamber, the AC looks at all the information, decides if the club is guilty and if so hands out punishment)
When this was done City released a statement saying the were disappointed but unsurprised by this action and also said we were totally innocent and that the IC hadn't followed their own procedures correctly. This is why we appealed to "CAS" Court of Arbitration for Sport, to have the investigation declared nul and void
Yesterday CAS said as the UEFA process hadn't been completed, they couldn't rule on the case

So if the AC finds us guilty we can go back to CAS again, but the reports from the media yesterday are suggesting we will not get a CL ban and maybe not even get a fine
 
In UEFA we have an incredibly corrupt organisation - like FIFA - it’s shrouded in mystery - has huge access to funds - but bizarrely is skint. It’s officials abuse their positions, have been seen to embezzle and ‘take illegal payments’ but few if any of the so-called investigative journalists in the U.K. are remotely interested. They are obsessed with City having an Arab owner, have more money than the old Sky Four and take as gospel any tit bit of information if it shows City in a bad light. I honestly hope when this whole sorry process comes to an end - a few people take a long hard look at how our press have reported this story and how they have come at it wholly subjectively - hoping and praying we’d be guilty. A few writs and deformation cases wouldn’t go amiss.
 
On the money. If UEFA have fucked their own case up, and I sincerely hope they have, then I don’t see any future for them. This whole charade has been about the greedy wankers at the Swamp, Klanfield, the Allianz and the Bernabéu, keeping an iron grip on the flow of huge sums of cash to their coffers, a flow they have spent years engineering with “seedings”, carefully rigged ratings systems, and monstrous hype. If City succeed in kicking the door to their cosy little world off its hinges, it won’t be just us they have to worry about steaming through it.
If we emerge from this unbanned, then I’ll give it one more season before the cartel sets up its own competition and excludes us from it. They’re cnuts.
It does make you wonder, if this all kicking off in the background (before any of us knew anything) was why our owner pulled the plug on a £300m loan, for Real Madrid’s stadium redevelopment.
 
A German Newspaper, De Speigel" was given stolen/hacked emails from Manchester City (and lots of other clubs) The hacker is under arrest in Portugal facing charges for extortion
City have always said they will not comment on out of context materials purported to have been hacked or stolen from City Football Group

Der Speigel released some details from these emails, which suggested that our owner gave Etihad the money to sponsor us
Now although this technically isn't against UEFA FFP regulations, it is claimed by Der Speigel that these hacked e mails prove that City failed to declare this to UEFA, so have broken FFP regulations
This payment goes back to 2014 and if UEFA were to charge us they had a certain time limit
UEFA asked City for information and we submitted documentation, however UEFA, knowing they were short on time, found us at fault,(If I remember correctly on the final day they could) and passed this up their ladder (This is the "IC" investigatory chamber, passing it to the "AC" Adjudicatory Chamber, the AC looks at all the information, decides if the club is guilty and if so hands out punishment)
When this was done City released a statement saying the were disappointed but unsurprised by this action and also said we were totally innocent and that the IC hadn't followed their own procedures correctly. This is why we appealed to "CAS" Court of Arbitration for Sport, to have the investigation declared nul and void
Yesterday CAS said as the UEFA process hadn't been completed, they couldn't rule on the case

So if the AC finds us guilty we can go back to CAS again, but the reports from the media yesterday are suggesting we will not get a CL ban and maybe not even get a fine
Nice summary.
 
Yep it was never stated as such but went on gardening leave straight after making strong criticism of the united, sorry altrincham fan, from wythenshawe, sorry altrincham, and never came back
Wasn't there also a situation with having an interview with Whitey pulled at the same time due to the ongoing Bennell case ?
 
I had this weird thought of dinner, it’s all bollocks so don’t laugh


Just supposing City surreptitiously put Pinto the hacker up to releasing our own ‘doctored’ emails to Der Speigal
He’s admitted to not doing the hacking but has agreed he passed them on to third parties.

just supposing these ‘hacked’ emails were also passed on to Gill and Parry. And furthermore these emails contained information City knew were complete bollocks and would show who had used Pinto to further their campaigns against City

could be the greatest sting since Redford last teamed up with Newman

could be that operation longbow was an arrow aimed at the heart of English corruption

You're wasted on here squirty .
 
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