Pep's rebuilding job. Pep's City Mk II

Marvin said:
-----------Ederson
Walker-Stones-Laporte-Zin
-------------Rodri
-----KDB----------Foden
Bernardo--Aguero--Sterling

We could if we wanted field the faster forward line in European football if we so wished: Sane, Sterling and Jesus.

There is no major rebuilding job to be done. You might have one or two concerns long term but the problem at the moment is that Laporte is out, Stones can't play more than 3-4 games back to back and the cover is a 34 year old midfielder. That is a temporary problem.
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Gone in the next 2 windows: Sane, Otto, Mendy , Fern, Silva, Bravo, Stones and maybe Jesus.

Gone in terms of age in the next couple of years, Sergio, Gundo

Thats a rebuild
 
Eoiyflem said:
We need - CB X2 (ota is going, stones is dogshit, ferna is 34 although Garcia/THB are hovering), LB (Mendy is not delivering, Angelino tries hard but is nowhere near the right level, miles off), foden to come in for Dave, sane is going and needs replaced, Sergio is going into his final year so we need at least 1, probably 2 proper strikers even with Gabby. That's a rebuild on anyone's book
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Was Stones dogshit the last two seasons when we won two titles? No he wasn't. Ota's cover, not first choice.

Aguero doesn't need replacing yet, and Jesus is an outstanding young forward. You wont get better.

Foden is already in the squad. Zinchenko played left back last season in treble-winning side.

The only players that need replacing are Ota, Silva and Fernandinho and the replacements are already ear-marked in the squad.

It's a rebuild only in the sense that the players are already on the books. If Sane moves on, then we could bring a player in, and perhaps we need a specialist left-back.

If City felt the squad was in a dire state of repair we'd be in the market for players in this window.
 
Marvin said:
Was Stones dogshit the last two seasons when we won two titles? No he wasn't. Ota's cover, not first choice.

Aguero doesn't need replacing yet, and Jesus is an outstanding young forward. You wont get better.

Foden is already in the squad. Zinchenko played left back last season in treble-winning side.

The only players that need replacing are Ota, Silva and Fernandinho and the replacements are already ear-marked in the squad.

It's a rebuild only in the sense that the players are already on the books. If Sane moves on, then we could bring a player in, and perhaps we need a specialist left-back.

If City felt the squad was in a dire state of repair we'd be in the market for players in this window.
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Stones went MIA In the last 2 seasons

Jesus is good, but shows no signs of been a suitable long term replacement for Sergio. Mbappe , Martinez far better.

Foden is a promising kid, a great talent but not the second coming as yet.

Zinchenko has been a revelation but against the very top sides is not good enough at LB, but an able back up.

We may not be in the market this January for maybe 2 reasons, the players wanted not available until summer, or there is going to be a change at the top. I genuinely hope the latter is not true, but if a contract extension is not signed in the next couple of months a real possibility despite what some people think on here.
 
Ederson
Walker koulibaly Laporte chilwell
Rodri
Kev. Bern / Foden

Sterling ,new striker , Sané / new Lw

think we need 4 new signings and about 250 mill to spend in summer if we are to compete for the league , don’t need a mass overhaul like some suggest
 
Marvin said:
Was Stones dogshit the last two seasons when we won two titles? No he wasn't. Ota's cover, not first choice.

Aguero doesn't need replacing yet, and Jesus is an outstanding young forward. You wont get better.

Foden is already in the squad. Zinchenko played left back last season in treble-winning side.

The only players that need replacing are Ota, Silva and Fernandinho and the replacements are already ear-marked in the squad.

It's a rebuild only in the sense that the players are already on the books. If Sane moves on, then we could bring a player in, and perhaps we need a specialist left-back.

If City felt the squad was in a dire state of repair we'd be in the market for players in this window.
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Hopefully we will be. We are in dire need of a left back and a centre back that’s for sure. If we only bring one player in to replace Sané and no one else in the next 2 windows then I think we can expect to underperform.

For me we need a new striker and midfielder too.

I can’t see us only buying one player in the next 2 windows.
 
ctid1894 said:
Why do you think we concede so many goals from so few chances? Why do you think it takes us so many chances to score? We have the "best striker" and forwards in the league excluding Livarpool if you believe the majority of fans, pundits and professional s within the game.

It's a very regular pattern with our defence that boils down to risk vs reward. It happens a lot to us because we commit so many players forward, too many at times, when we get desperate and are trying to force it. Opponents have "easier" chances to score against us as we're wide open, there's no pressure from our defendeds. We don't get as many "easier" chances because a lot of the time we're taking a shot under heavy pressure of defenders, due to the numbers they have back to recover.

So yes the data does back up what I'm saying, it's just you choose to interpret it in a very different way than I do. You're entitled to your opinion but I personally think you're deluded or are just looking at the stats too simplistically, rather than exploring why things happen.
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What we are seeing now is what we saw in 16/17. It has nothing to do with inverted wingers and lack of creativity.

Where are the data which back your point? Can you post them? Are you saying we don't create more big chances than Liverpool and Leicester?

xG models give values to any chance, from big to small. Those values are not arbitrary but based on data from thousands of football games.What yoy say is that we create many small chances which boosts our xG numbers but which does not reflect quality. But this is naive at best. Roughly speaking, the probability to score from 8 small chances and 2 big chances is the same. It's not like teams score only from big chances. And it's not like there is a team creating more big chances than City.

But but we create more chances because we take more risks! Bollocks. If you take more risks, you concede more chances. Whether you concede 8 small chances or 2 big chances doesn't matter in reality. Why do we concede more goals than Liverpool and Leicester if our xGA is comparable to theirs? Because our defenders have been poor. Kompany and Laporte were first choice for most of the run in last season. Now they are not available + Stones who has missed many weeks through injury. We are playing a 34 y.o midfielder at CB and Otamendi who has been shoking at times. Mendy/Angelino have been poor too. Zinchenko started the season in poor form as well. Cancelo is new to the league, Walker inconsistent. This is why we concede more goals than Liverpool, not because we take more risks going forward. And we have conceded only 5 goals more than Liverpool over 16 games. It's not like we concede much more goals than them.

But even if there is some truth to the opinion we commit too many players in attack, it would be different if (1) our defenders were better and didn't concede cheap goals and (2) we were more clinical. If we are not sufficiently clinical, then we will have to take risks, those risks are more significant, if our defenders are poor, etc. Pep is right, if we do better in the boxes, then those problems wouldn't exist. We went back to 16/17 in terms of our performances in both boxes. We didn't have good defenders/keeper in 16/17 and weren't sufficiently clinical. There is a reason why Pep benched Sergio when Jesus arrived. Sergio hasn't been that great this season, Jesus, Sterling, Mahrez, Bernardo have been inconsistent regarding goalscoring. We crate enough chances, but we miss too many of them compared to Liverpool (5 goals from 5 shots on target against Everton!) and Leicester/Vardy.
 
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Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Hopefully we will be. We are in dire need of a left back and a centre back that’s for sure. If we only bring one player in to replace Sané and no one else in the next 2 windows then I think we can expect to underperform.

For me we need a new striker and midfielder too.

I can’t see us only buying one player in the next 2 windows.
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The first bit I agree, but don't think we'll bring in a striker until one leaves, the midfielder depends on how Txiki and Pep think Foden is developing and whether he is ready to step into Silva's boots.
 
The nucleus of the team is already in place:-

Edersson
Walker/Cancelo
Garcia - promoted next season to the 1st team
Laporte
Zinchenko
Mendy (if he gets back to where he was - pre-City days)
Rodri
Foden
Bernardo
KDB
Sterling
Jesus



We now need to get the targets in that are required to play the style needed. Young fast players with ability.

One thing we have witnessed on top of the lack of form is our lack of speed on the press and on the counter-break - both have been basically non-existent this season

we also need a decent back-up keeper
 
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