Haven't read up to the end of the thread so may have been said, but can't you put a lien on the property preventing him from doing anything with it till your paid?
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Have you ever been really skint?
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Make sure you get the right one because I am his next door neighbourHaven't read up to the end of the thread so may have been said, but can't you put a lien on the property preventing him from doing anything with it till your paid?
I think like me, the Plasterer just wants his money soon without any hassle or things getting nasty.
Once you start legal action, you know the money will be a long way off.
So even though it seems daft, you actually want to keep the customer sweet until you're paid.
I'm pretty choosy who i work for. I normally only come unstuck when a third party gets involved.
(ie when you are doing a mate a favour)
So although my natural reaction would be to get nasty, i have learnt the opposite is more effective.
Different tactics work for different people.
The fact this knob hasn't paid up yet, suggests he is not the worrying type. He probably get threatening letters everyday.
Going that route means you will just be added to the list. Footballers all have ego's. I just normally play to that.
I had an Everton player who moved to a London club. He wanted his old house renovating ready for renting.
The work was done super fast with the promise of instant money. The tenant moved in almost immediately.
Then the trouble started. Nobody who worked there got paid. He went into radio silence. He actually changed phone numbers.
Not wanting to be ripped off, i approached the new tenant with my bill. (a Russian official)
I demanded he paid my bill on the landlords behalth . He obviously refused. So i told him i would visit every day until it was paid.
He then did the work for me. I got paid within two hours (by the player). I'm not sure how others got on, but i hope they did the same.
Once you start legal action, you know the money will be a long way off.
So even though it seems daft, you actually want to keep the customer sweet until you're paid.
I'm pretty choosy who i work for. I normally only come unstuck when a third party gets involved.
(ie when you are doing a mate a favour)
So although my natural reaction would be to get nasty, i have learnt the opposite is more effective.
Different tactics work for different people.
The fact this knob hasn't paid up yet, suggests he is not the worrying type. He probably get threatening letters everyday.
Going that route means you will just be added to the list. Footballers all have ego's. I just normally play to that.
I had an Everton player who moved to a London club. He wanted his old house renovating ready for renting.
The work was done super fast with the promise of instant money. The tenant moved in almost immediately.
Then the trouble started. Nobody who worked there got paid. He went into radio silence. He actually changed phone numbers.
Not wanting to be ripped off, i approached the new tenant with my bill. (a Russian official)
I demanded he paid my bill on the landlords behalth . He obviously refused. So i told him i would visit every day until it was paid.
He then did the work for me. I got paid within two hours (by the player). I'm not sure how others got on, but i hope they did the same.
stonerblue
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Yep, several times.
Asa's Heart
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I’m 53 now..... Grew up in absolute poverty in a block of flats that overlooked Strangeways. They were called Cornwall Buildings. We had Soldiers on the roof during some of the IRA trials in the seventies. Victorian flats that were two rooms and an outside toilet. We had a tin bath. Infested with cockroaches and when people lit the rubbish shoot to unblock it rats were everywhere. Dangerous too with railings falling off regularly. The flats were where they dumped families of different nationalities. We had Italians, German, Caribbean, Hungarian, Polish and of course us Irish. We were often looked after by a woman who had been in the concentration camps. It was a real mish mash and gave me a real love of different cultures and nationalities.
The problem was poverty. We had nothing, and I mean nothing. If it wasn’t for the help from neighbours who also mostly had nothing it would have been worse. My folks went without an awful lot and us three kids still suffered. I really do know what it is like to be hungry and was regularly dizzy because of not having food. It got to my Ma who struggled emotionally and as a result attempted suicide a few times, the first time after we couldn’t pay the rent anymore and we were locked out. My Dad eventually sorted that out and we got back in but it was a really bad time. Eventually the flats were compulsory purchased and we were offered a choice. Harpurhey or Moss Side. We went to look at a house in Moss Side on a new estate. It had hot water, radiators, a bathroom and a small garden. I still remember us three kids not being able to speak, then running around the house thinking we had won the pools. I get emotional now thinking about it. We moved in and things got better but we still struggled badly for years. I missed four years of school because of feeling like an outsider, smelling, feeling different. That’s what poverty can do. It marginalises and destroys children and families.
I eventually studied as a mature student, thanks to a wonderful woman that I met and have spent the past 25 years working with kids and families in poverty. If people don’t think real poverty is a problem today they need to spend a week with me. It’s a national disgrace and getting worse. It’s also deliberate...... I work as a senior manager now, live in a reasonable place with my partner and two dogs, but still feel like I don’t belong......
The problem was poverty. We had nothing, and I mean nothing. If it wasn’t for the help from neighbours who also mostly had nothing it would have been worse. My folks went without an awful lot and us three kids still suffered. I really do know what it is like to be hungry and was regularly dizzy because of not having food. It got to my Ma who struggled emotionally and as a result attempted suicide a few times, the first time after we couldn’t pay the rent anymore and we were locked out. My Dad eventually sorted that out and we got back in but it was a really bad time. Eventually the flats were compulsory purchased and we were offered a choice. Harpurhey or Moss Side. We went to look at a house in Moss Side on a new estate. It had hot water, radiators, a bathroom and a small garden. I still remember us three kids not being able to speak, then running around the house thinking we had won the pools. I get emotional now thinking about it. We moved in and things got better but we still struggled badly for years. I missed four years of school because of feeling like an outsider, smelling, feeling different. That’s what poverty can do. It marginalises and destroys children and families.
I eventually studied as a mature student, thanks to a wonderful woman that I met and have spent the past 25 years working with kids and families in poverty. If people don’t think real poverty is a problem today they need to spend a week with me. It’s a national disgrace and getting worse. It’s also deliberate...... I work as a senior manager now, live in a reasonable place with my partner and two dogs, but still feel like I don’t belong......
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Fortunate to have had a good middle class up bringing, never wealthy but didn't ever go hungry and was always clothed.
I then met the missus at 16 and by 17 we had our first kid and were fortunate to get a council house ( Back in the 80's).
Things were really tight with very little money, regularly went days days without eating, no heating due to the cost and was running 10 miles a day to and from work each day as we could not afford the bus fare.
We received help that we were grateful for from our parents but we kept it to help mainly for out daughter and we never really le them know just how bad we were struggling.
I ensured that i worked constantly, full time in the day and part time at night and was knackered. I swore to my wife that things would not always be that way and over the years things improved.
We are now in our early 50's, living in a nice area and virtualy mortgage free with secure jobs.
A few things have stuck though.
I hate "wasting money", i always wait for things i want to be in the sales and always put money away on a regular basis.
I would hate to be in the same situation now as we would not have had the help of a council house and jobs are much harder to find.
As tough as we found it we had a lot of things going in our favour.
I then met the missus at 16 and by 17 we had our first kid and were fortunate to get a council house ( Back in the 80's).
Things were really tight with very little money, regularly went days days without eating, no heating due to the cost and was running 10 miles a day to and from work each day as we could not afford the bus fare.
We received help that we were grateful for from our parents but we kept it to help mainly for out daughter and we never really le them know just how bad we were struggling.
I ensured that i worked constantly, full time in the day and part time at night and was knackered. I swore to my wife that things would not always be that way and over the years things improved.
We are now in our early 50's, living in a nice area and virtualy mortgage free with secure jobs.
A few things have stuck though.
I hate "wasting money", i always wait for things i want to be in the sales and always put money away on a regular basis.
I would hate to be in the same situation now as we would not have had the help of a council house and jobs are much harder to find.
As tough as we found it we had a lot of things going in our favour.
FFS!
Think of a welsh international who had a penalty saved by Niall Quinn and who now spouts the most utter shite on talksport and was sentenced to jail time earlier this year, appealed and was let off with community service
Right
Welsh international = Giggs
Spouts utter shite = Giggs
Sentenced to jail time + Giggs (ok not true but if one fucker should be in jail it is that bastard)
missed a penalty is the only one I am stuck on, perhaps it is someone else. hmmmmm
I’m 53 now..... Grew up in absolute poverty ins, German, Caribbean, Hungarian, Polish and of different cultures and nationalities.
The problem was poverty. We had nothing, and I mean nothing. If it wasn’t for the help from neighbours who also mostly had nothing it would have been worse. My folks went without an awful lot and us three kids still suffered. I really do know what it is like to be hungry and was regularly dizzy because of not having food. It got to my Ma who struggled emotionally and as a bathroom and a small garden. I still remember us three kids not being able to speak, then running around the house thinking we had won the pools. I get emotional now thinking about it.don’t think real poverty is a problem today they need to spend a week with me. It’s a national disgrace and getting worse. It’s also deliberate
What do you mean it’s deliberate?
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I’m 53 now..... Grew up in absolute poverty in a block of flats that overlooked Strangeways. They were called Cornwall Buildings. We had Soldiers on the roof during some of the IRA trials in the seventies. Victorian flats that were two rooms and an outside toilet. We had a tin bath. Infested with cockroaches and when people lit the rubbish shoot to unblock it rats were everywhere. Dangerous too with railings falling off regularly. The flats were where they dumped families of different nationalities. We had Italians, German, Caribbean, Hungarian, Polish and of course us Irish. We were often looked after by a woman who had been in the concentration camps. It was a real mish mash and gave me a real love of different cultures and nationalities.
The problem was poverty. We had nothing, and I mean nothing. If it wasn’t for the help from neighbours who also mostly had nothing it would have been worse. My folks went without an awful lot and us three kids still suffered. I really do know what it is like to be hungry and was regularly dizzy because of not having food. It got to my Ma who struggled emotionally and as a result attempted suicide a few times, the first time after we couldn’t pay the rent anymore and we were locked out. My Dad eventually sorted that out and we got back in but it was a really bad time. Eventually the flats were compulsory purchased and we were offered a choice. Harpurhey or Moss Side. We went to look at a house in Moss Side on a new estate. It had hot water, radiators, a bathroom and a small garden. I still remember us three kids not being able to speak, then running around the house thinking we had won the pools. I get emotional now thinking about it. We moved in and things got better but we still struggled badly for years. I missed four years of school because of feeling like an outsider, smelling, feeling different. That’s what poverty can do. It marginalises and destroys children and families.
I eventually studied as a mature student, thanks to a wonderful woman that I met and have spent the past 25 years working with kids and families in poverty. If people don’t think real poverty is a problem today they need to spend a week with me. It’s a national disgrace and getting worse. It’s also deliberate...... I work as a senior manager now, live in a reasonable place with my partner and two dogs, but still feel like I don’t belong......
I'm 3 years older than you mate and to be fair, we didn't have much but can't recall being dizzy with hunger..
Must admit your post took me back to when I was 4, 5, 6 years old and has touched me..
Times were truly hard back then for many ..
Sounds like you're doing a fantastic job now and all credit to you..
It's people like you that restore my faith in human kind..
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What do you mean it’s deliberate?
I don’t want to turn the thread into a political debate. We have probably all had enough of that recently. However, four million children living in poverty in the fifth richest economy in the world doesn’t happen by chance. There is double that living on the margins who could also drop to poverty levels.
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