Hes a ball playing cb if hes not good in our set up whos would he be good in?He’d be good in a different set up. In ours he is asked to defend 1 on 1 and he can’t do it. So for us it’s time to ship out. Same as otamendi.
He didn't bring zaha down,the cheating twat initiated the contact and went overPretty much only asked to defend 4 times in that game. First time he brings down Zaha and should have given away a pen. Second time he loses the header on the corner and they score. Third time he completely loses Ayew on a ball over the top and luckily Ederson saves it. Fourth time he is one on one with Zaha and just gets breezed past.
There is no set up that works for a defender who cannot defend
I understand the idea, but really its the difference in how he has to defend.
In other teams he has more "defending" but its simpler defending, in a pack with other players.
In ours, while he has to do that rarely, and definitely on corners, the most important defending is 1 on 1 that happens when we inevitably get countered. The counters happen, its not anyones fault, but its the hardest thing to do as a defender, its literally why players like Laporte, Van Dijk are the best defenders in the world. They do all the fancy bits, but can add in with correct decision making in 1 on 1s.
That decision making is either don't be stupid and just foul/kick the ball out (Stones is too timid here), or make a correctly timed tackle (Stones kind of okay here), or jockey them out wide into a difficult position for when our team can come back to defend (Stones doesn't think about this enough).
I understand what you are getting at but he had the “simpler” defending when he was Everton and he was no good at that either. When push comes to shove, we took a £50m gamble on a defender who couldn’t hold down a regular place in a poor Everton side and it has back-fired. All the top ball-playing centre backs over the years, have still had the ability to do the basics of defending, like picking up your man, or being positionally aware. Stones is incapable of the basics and therefore I don’t see him being a success at any other club, simpler defending or otherwise.
As a kid, if Stones had said he was a ball-playing midfielder, rather than a centre back, he would be working in Tesco or cleaning windows now. He is a very basic footballer, with next to nothing special about him and he has been extremely lucky to get where has has in the game.
He lunged in like a twat, giving Zaha every opportunity to go down. It was a piss poor bit of defendingHe didn't bring zaha down,the cheating twat initiated the contact and went over
Well I'll keep faith in the City player, like I try to with all of them. I'd rather be perpetually disappointed than expect the worst. You're entitled to write him off. It's just I won't.John is like walcott,everyone waits for them to take that step and fulfill their potential but they just get to it and then drop backwards , he was never going to get a better chance to become the leader than this season but he hasn't taken it
I do take into consideration whats going on in his life but he did bring that on himself by cheating and breaking up his family so limited sympathy,he is being shown up by dinho which is ridiculous
He was very good but mentally he has gone
Bit harsh,he has earned his medalsI understand what you are getting at but he had the “simpler” defending when he was Everton and he was no good at that either. When push comes to shove, we took a £50m gamble on a defender who couldn’t hold down a regular place in a poor Everton side and it has back-fired. All the top ball-playing centre backs over the years, have still had the ability to do the basics of defending, like picking up your man, or being positionally aware. Stones is incapable of the basics and therefore I don’t see him being a success at any other club, simpler defending or otherwise.
As a kid, if Stones had said he was a ball-playing midfielder, rather than a centre back, he would be working in Tesco or cleaning windows now. He is a very basic footballer, with next to nothing special about him and he has been extremely lucky to get where has has in the game.