COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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fulabeer said:
It won't seem real until somebody you know gets it.
I had my first reality check this morning. I was in Toolstation, and a chinese women in front of me had a face mask on.
It's the first time i've seen somebody wearing one that isn't on TV.
Overhearing her conversation with the sales assistant, she was ordering every face mask the shop had.
She was explaining that she was visiting every shop she could to get as many masks as she could. She said she was going to send them to relatives in China.
I can only assume this is due to a shortage of masks and rising (profiteering?) prices.

Now i've read that some (east) asian people have been suffering racism already. With people refusing to sit near them, or opening referring to coronavirus.
Does wearing a mask only serve to make matters worse, or is it prudent and a safe thing to do?
If i'm honest, it did make me wonder was it for her protection or mine.
A few more local cases may see us all wearing one. (assuming they haven't all been bought up!)
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Surgical masks are pointless, they don't stop the spread of the virus, you need a mask that covers the eyes as well.
 
fulabeer said:
It won't seem real until somebody you know gets it.
I had my first reality check this morning. I was in Toolstation, and a chinese women in front of me had a face mask on.
It's the first time i've seen somebody wearing one (since the outbreak) that isn't on TV.
Overhearing her conversation with the sales assistant, she was ordering every face mask the shop had.
She was explaining that she was visiting every shop she could, to get as many masks as they had. She said she was going to send them to relatives in China.
I can only assume this is due to a shortage of masks and rising (profiteering?) prices.

Now i've read that some (east) asian people have been suffering racism already. With people refusing to sit near them, or openly referring to coronavirus.
Does wearing a mask only serve to make matters worse, or is it prudent and a safe thing to do?
If i'm honest, it did make me wonder was it for her protection or mine.
A few more local cases may see us all wearing one. (assuming they haven't all been bought up!)
Click to expand...

I work with an ex nurse who believes they are only good in the very short term and if you don’t change it regularly, it can have the opposite effect and make things worse.

If it becomes an epidemic here I can anticipate a limit on how many you can buy and people potentially fighting over them.

Hopefully it won’t come to that.
 
fulabeer said:
It won't seem real until somebody you know gets it.
I had my first reality check this morning. I was in Toolstation, and a chinese women in front of me had a face mask on.
It's the first time i've seen somebody wearing one (since the outbreak) that isn't on TV.
Overhearing her conversation with the sales assistant, she was ordering every face mask the shop had.
She was explaining that she was visiting every shop she could, to get as many masks as they had. She said she was going to send them to relatives in China.
I can only assume this is due to a shortage of masks and rising (profiteering?) prices.

Now i've read that some (east) asian people have been suffering racism already. With people refusing to sit near them, or openly referring to coronavirus.
Does wearing a mask only serve to make matters worse, or is it prudent and a safe thing to do?
If i'm honest, it did make me wonder was it for her protection or mine.
A few more local cases may see us all wearing one. (assuming they haven't all been bought up!)
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I've see a few around Piccadilly station, it was non asian people wearing them too.
 
fulabeer said:
It won't seem real until somebody you know gets it.
I had my first reality check this morning. I was in Toolstation, and a chinese women in front of me had a face mask on.
It's the first time i've seen somebody wearing one (since the outbreak) that isn't on TV.
Overhearing her conversation with the sales assistant, she was ordering every face mask the shop had.
She was explaining that she was visiting every shop she could, to get as many masks as they had. She said she was going to send them to relatives in China.
I can only assume this is due to a shortage of masks and rising (profiteering?) prices.

Now i've read that some (east) asian people have been suffering racism already. With people refusing to sit near them, or openly referring to coronavirus.
Does wearing a mask only serve to make matters worse, or is it prudent and a safe thing to do?
If i'm honest, it did make me wonder was it for her protection or mine.
A few more local cases may see us all wearing one. (assuming they haven't all been bought up!)
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I ordered a mask on amazon, before I learned how little it would help. A week later got an email saying I will be refunded as the supplier has informed them no more are available. Supplies are practically non-existent. So if the UK population eventually gets into full on panic mode, well we’ve just got to isolate ourselves as masks won’t be available to buy. At the time, I wanted a decent one just as a precaution, thought I was actually quick of the mark, but obviously not!
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
Surgical masks are pointless, they don't stop the spread of the virus, you need a mask that covers the eyes as well.
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fulabeer said:
It won't seem real until somebody you know gets it.
I had my first reality check this morning. I was in Toolstation, and a chinese women in front of me had a face mask on.
It's the first time i've seen somebody wearing one (since the outbreak) that isn't on TV.
Overhearing her conversation with the sales assistant, she was ordering every face mask the shop had.
She was explaining that she was visiting every shop she could, to get as many masks as they had. She said she was going to send them to relatives in China.
I can only assume this is due to a shortage of masks and rising (profiteering?) prices.

Now i've read that some (east) asian people have been suffering racism already. With people refusing to sit near them, or openly referring to coronavirus.
Does wearing a mask only serve to make matters worse, or is it prudent and a safe thing to do?
If i'm honest, it did make me wonder was it for her protection or mine.
A few more local cases may see us all wearing one. (assuming they haven't all been bought up!)
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This is the general overview I posted earlier in the thread about masks based on talking with several medical professionals in my family (nurse, two doctors, and a professor of pathology) and reading a few overviews of the latest efficacy studies.


SebastianBlue said:
It is — general findings are that the general use masks are helpful in reducing pathogen transmission through droplet dispersion by the person wearing it, but only if regularly replaced and coupled with constant hand washing (as people still constantly touch the masks as they do their faces).

There is very little to no evidence that they protect against violent aerosol dispersion (sneezing/coughing) of pathogens, either for the wearer or those around them, and can actually increase transmission if not used properly.

They are primarily used in medicine (consultation, surgery, etc.) to reduce transmission through (non-aerosol) fluid exchange and to make patients feel better about the cleanliness of the treatment space (which, believe it or not, is actually somewhat impactful on recovery rates). There are specialised masks that are much more effective, but those are not widely available and tend to be very expensive.

Coughing/sneezing in to your elbow away from other people, constant proper hand washing, and quarantining yourself when you think you may be sick are still the best methods of hindering transmission, short of wearing a hazmat/bio hazard suit and going through constant decon procedures.
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