Wenger wants to change offside

There is merit in what Wenger proposes.

Generally attacking players have other parts of their body in front of their feet as they move forward whilst the opposite is true for defenders. Armpits and toes will no longer be a critical factor with feet placement more important restoring the advantage to attackers.

Handball continues to be a nonesense as does the whole area of fouls in the build up to a goal.
 
spiny said:
There is merit in what Wenger proposes. Generally attacking players have other parts of their body in front of their feet as they move forward whilst the opposite is true for defenders. Armpits and toes will no longer be a critical factor with feet placement more important restoring the advantage to attackers. Handball continues to be a nonesense as does the whole area of fouls in the build up to a goal.
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All good points - stick it to 'em spiny ;)
 
Am I the only person that actually like the current offside rule? If it becomes harder to stay onside we'll just have a bunch of teams parked on the halfway line, leading to the scrappy football many of us grew up with. And if it's easier to stay onside (like has been proposed) we'll just have a bunch of teams parking the buses even more.

It's not a coincidence that football rapidly evolved around the time the current offside rule was brought in.
 
Kris_Musampa said:
Don't understand why this isn't straight forward? It's immaterial where you set the line, his front toe, his rear heel, whatever physical extremity near or far, there will always be a point of uncertainty where a notional line is drawn ie NOT CLEAR AND OBVIOUS. In which case, if it NOT CLEAR AND OBVIOUS, the benefit of doubt goes to the attacking player! Perhaps there needs to be a "clear and obvious zone", say all agree at 50mm (2" in old money).

But then all you've done is create ANOTHER contentious zone, what if it's just on the edge of the 50mm?? There will still be howls if bias and cheating.

The solution? Fuck VAR off COMPLETELY! Take the game back to as it was.

And this is from somebody, who before this season, firmly believed technology in football was a must. How wrong was I? It's been an unmitigated disaster!

Keep goal line tech tho, that's useful.
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Completely.

Pundits are either completely ignorant or deliberately obfuscating when they refer to VAR offside decisions as "black and white".

There is:
finite frame rate - temporal measurement error.
finite camera positions - spatial measurement error.

And you are trying to judge 2 things, the exact instant the ball leaves the foot of the passer (can only be determined to a best accuracy of the amount of the time between 2 frames) and the location of the attacker which is subject to both the same temporal error AND the spatial measurement error.

There HAS to be a margin of error, the way the media is presenting it is either disingenuous or downright ignorant of how measurements actually work. Anything within the margin of error has conventionally given the benefit of th doubt to the attacker.
 
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