COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

I think you'll find people have been making balanced and reasonable claims and projections. The WHO have reported a much higher death rate and yet people like me - who you might regard as being one of the more alarmist - have been using figures like 1% anyway.

If you take the raw numbers and projections, then yes it does look apocalyptic. But hopefully we can avoid that with appropriate actions.

So this is apocalyptic?? A 1% death rate! Really ? I'm guessing you have been lucky enough in your life to have not had much adversity or serious illness in your family. Unfortunately I have. Unfortunately Cancer has affected my family and close friends very badly. 380,000 people will be diagnosed with Cancer this year in the UK and about 170,000 people will die and 1 in 3 of us in our life will get cancer.

I know you are really good at maths Chippy so you work out the how deadly Cancer is compared to Coronavirus.

And then come back and tell me how apocalytic a 1% or a 4% death rate is? Sure it's terrible and we should be doing all we can to avoid it. But I'm guessing that even you, one of the most pessimistic people on this thread (or a realist as you like to say) kind of thinks that in a couple of years time mankind will have developed a vaccine for this flu virus and it will fortunately be nearly eradicated. Sadly despite medical advances we are likely to be several decades away from such a result with Cancer. Perhaps you should think on that my my friend before your next apocalyptic post.

 

[Uffa]

Don't think he needs an introduction but anyway he's an Italian porn star.

"Get your tits out but don't go out
share the new hashtag and let's all stay home
#titsoutbutistayin"

 

[Indaparkside]

Er, because I have a job and can't take the time off. If I was out of work and needed the money, I probably would.

You must have a flexible job your never of here

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Sense a bit of a change in the media this morning. Although the situation in Italy is alarming if i was a betting man this will hardly be getting a mention by May / June. Could well be wrong but that is my prediction for what it is worth.

Not sure I agree with that,

 

[Chippy_boy]

This government a comprehensive plan

Ha ha you're funny

To be fair, I am sure they have. There's lots of tough decisions to be made. It's not a "no brainer" to take actions which will put companies out of business and people out of work. Such decisions are inevitably a balance weighing up the risks, the possible benefit and the adverse consequences.

I am sure the government has top scientists working on it and providing daily advice and that yes there is an overall strategy. Whether we agree with it is s different question.

 

[Mon Autre]

So this is apocalyptic?? A 1% death rate! Really ? I'm guessing you have been lucky enough in your life to have not had much adversity or serious illness in your family. Unfortunately I have. Unfortunately Cancer has affected my family and close friends very badly. 380,000 people will be diagnosed with Cancer this year in the UK and about 170,000 people will die and 1 in 3 of us in our life will get cancer.

I know you are really good at maths Chippy so you work out the how deadly Cancer is compared to Coronavirus.

And then come back and tell me how apocalytic a 1% or a 4% death rate is? Sure it's terrible and we should be doing all we can to avoid it. But I'm guessing that even you, one of the most pessimistic people on this thread (or a realist as you like to say) kind of thinks that in a couple of years time mankind will have developed a vaccine for this flu virus and it will fortunately be nearly eradicated. Sadly despite medical advances we are likely to be several decades away from such a result with Cancer. Perhaps you should think on that my my friend before your next apocalyptic post.

Do you think it's only the death rate that defines how serious this is? The knock on effect will harm people whether they have coronavirus or not. Obviously we all know what cancer is and how common it is. If our hospitals are suddenly flooded with people with coronavirus then we can expect cancer operations and other life saving procedures to be postponed. A paralysed NHS will harm all sorts of people in all sorts of ways and we all need to look at the bigger picture.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

That isn't the only thing people find hard to accept though (although yes I really struggle with such a callous idea. Particularly coming from someone whose loved ones have access to whatever healthcare is needed on the spot). It's also the idea that a significant percentage of our entire workforce and our public services could be off work all at once and bring the entire country to a standstill. It won't be just the vulnerable that take the hit in that case. It was an incredibly stupid thing to say or even mention as a theory. It won't be our strategy and it won't be any other country's strategy either so why even plant a seed that is likely to make a number of people adopt an even more blasé attitude that will endanger other people around them? This is the second time he's spoken publicly in a week and given out dangerously misleading information. We need strong credible leadership at a time like this and instead we have this kind of waffle that is putting people at risk. This has already turned into something bigger than a lot of people anticipated and when I look at the leaders of two supposed grest nations such as the US and UK it's laughable/terrifying that these are the people expected to lead us out of it.

I'm not supporting the idea myself, just responding to a quote that this was a BoJo/Cummings idea, but it is exactly what we are doing at the moment and what other countries have done. With the evidence from China, as soon as one case is confirmed to have spread within your borders then if you don't agree with the theory you should be advocating draconian travel bans & quarantine measures such as was observed within Wuhan. Of course everyone will say this is absurd, and it is, but that would be accepting that you are willing to allow the theory for some time, then declare war on it.

 

[Chippy_boy]

You must have a flexible job your never of here

Well obviously.

 

[mayo31]

So this is apocalyptic?? A 1% death rate! Really ? I'm guessing you have been lucky enough in your life to have not had much adversity or serious illness in your family. Unfortunately I have. Unfortunately Cancer has affected my family and close friends very badly. 380,000 people will be diagnosed with Cancer this year in the UK and about 170,000 people will die and 1 in 3 of us in our life will get cancer.

I know you are really good at maths Chippy so you work out the how deadly Cancer is compared to Coronavirus.

And then come back and tell me how apocalytic a 1% or a 4% death rate is? Sure it's terrible and we should be doing all we can to avoid it. But I'm guessing that even you, one of the most pessimistic people on this thread (or a realist as you like to say) kind of thinks that in a couple of years time mankind will have developed a vaccine for this flu virus and it will fortunately be nearly eradicated. Sadly despite medical advances we are likely to be several decades away from such a result with Cancer. Perhaps you should think on that my my friend before your next apocalyptic post.

You have done it now, he will be all over this like a rash. Be ready for his response

 

[mayo31]

Well obviously.

Lollipop man? 2 hours a day