UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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De Spiegel are just the mouth piece of Bayern but Pinto is a hacker and Blackmailer, Porto and Ronaldo can vouch for that, someone paid Pinto to hack us and the only way you can find a blackmailing hacker is when he does it to you. quite frankly if that highly suggestive of where the money had come from email was all he found we are a very clean company, as everything else was in the public domain, as for Qatar it is the Yank way to keep Muslims tribal

Not the case.
Der Speigel attacked Bayern Munich in an expose on them and Rummeneige at the same time stuff was released on us.
 
The time to do it is when it hurts them the most. And that time is when they're on the verge of getting the title. Imagine the pictures of the PL trophy being delivered to Anfield at the same time that some of their senior staff are being led out in handcuffs.
HANDCUFFS...... Do I not like that. (Prop G.Taylor)
 
The time to do it is when it hurts them the most. And that time is when they're on the verge of getting the title. Imagine the pictures of the PL trophy being delivered to Anfield at the same time that some of their senior staff are being led out in handcuffs.
Do people think we have something on the dippers or is it just hope
 
It seems to have been forgotten in the midsts of time, but it is well worth remembering the Der Spiegel articles and how they were written.

Outside of a few hacked documents, it was primarily padded out over five days with nothing more than spiteful words to denigrate the club and its history, laying it on thick when it came to our lack of success over the last few decades.

It spoke as if we had basically appeared in 2008 and offered plenty of superior moralising.

City were right to cite it as a clear attempt to damage the club's name.

For me, however, the narrative from De Spiegel betrayed quite a lot in terms of an agenda being served on behalf of an outside party.

It had a very German-centric influence that wreaked of Bayern undertones.

My other conclusion, based on the current politics, are all roads pointing towards Qatar, certainly in light of the recent Facebook revelations about negative accounts being set up about City in India?

Both seriously have the motive. We know the hacker by name but he had no input into how it was presented?

For me, once they’d exhausted all the City stuff the articles then became a bitter rant about the amount of money the Premier League generates compared to the Bundesliga and how it was oh so unfair that English clubs could outbid their German counterparts for players. It was a load of self-righteous bullshit that looked like it had been written by a fucking 10 year old and more fool all the opposition fans who swallowed it because while it started out as an anti-City theme it then turned into an attack on all Premier League clubs.
 
Sorry, but Der Spiegel or Bayern Munich absolutely hate each other, and der Spiegel were one of the newspapers that got Uli Hoeness put in prison after publishing leaked tax documents.

You can't just say "the paper is German + there's a German club we don't like much = they must be conspiring".

Der Spiegel are just typical German football fundamentalists who think the game should have stayed in the 1950's, and as the figurehead of modern football and external money, they obviously hate us, but they don't like Bayern either as the most commercialised club in Germany - which was also apparent from the way they published football leaks documents accusing Bayern of pushing for a super league.
I take your point Der Spiegel did run very much as a respected independent investigating news outlet, but times change in years gone they would never have run with so little evidence
 
Not the case.
Der Speigel attacked Bayern Munich in an expose on them and Rummeneige at the same time stuff was released on us.

Yet in one of the articles about us, Der Spackel (or whatever the fuck it’s called) gleefully uses a quote from that tax-dodging **** Uli Hoeness
 
I have always despised Wenger. For a period he was the highest paid manager in the world. He defended the actions of Arsenal's owners as they fleeced their fans with ticket prices and attacked City as a deflection tactic. He was one of the first to use the phrase financial doping. He also seemed to relish using the Arab oil label which makes me believe his motives may have been driven by more sinister attitudes towards the heritage of our owners. I am not surprised he has now landed a job with one of the world's most corrupt organisations.

His hypocrisy complaining about us being funded by an”Oil Sheik” with the Emirates Stadium as his backdrop.
 
For me, once they’d exhausted all the City stuff the articles then became a bitter rant about the amount of money the Premier League generates compared to the Bundesliga and how it was oh so unfair that English clubs could outbid their German counterparts for players. It was a load of self-righteous bullshit that looked like it had been written by a fucking 10 year old and more fool all the opposition fans who swallowed it because while it started out as an anti-City theme it then turned into an attack on all Premier League clubs.
I suspect Der Spiegel have only ever had a tiny fraction of the whole Footy Leaks hack. They ran the same story on City for three days. There are tens of millions of documents ( it is reported to be one of the biggest stolen caches in history) and only a fraction have ever seen the light of day. They must include lots of dirt on UEFA and FIFA. Certainly Infantino has been caught in the net just last week. There's a lot more to come out.
 
I suspect Der Spiegel have only ever had a tiny fraction of the whole Footy Leaks hack. They ran the same story on City for three days. There are tens of millions of documents ( it is reported to be one of the biggest stolen caches in history) and only a fraction have ever seen the light of day. They must include lots of dirt on UEFA and FIFA. Certainly Infantino has been caught in the net just last week. There's a lot more to come out.
Which makes you wonder why UEFA would want stolen emails to be admissible is this a double bluff put City up to make the legal argument then after the ruling is in our favour all stolen data is in the bin.
 
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