COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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2.2 million allowed out of the house for the first time in what seems like forever.

2.2 million people getting a phone call that they have been around people with the virus and have to self isolate.
 
If we’d held out just a 3-4 weeks longer with a stronger lockdown then we’d have most likely avoided it, at least to the degree it will hit now.
Put this in the other thread but fits this too.

Just to add to this, about 3 weeks ago when England came out of lockdown Scotland was at about 3-400 new cases / day equivalent for population to about 4000 new cases /day in the UK. Those current 50ish Scottish cases / day would be equivalent to 500 new UK cases / day.
Those extra 3 weeks of lockdown seem to have made a significant difference to coming out of lockdown at a lower base.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463
 
I think some people's concerns though are that they can't really isolate from them. They've got to go to work etc. Those indifferent to the rules put others who are trying their best at risk, and only prolong everything for the rest of us. They really are arrogant, selfish bastards.
I agree and Health and Safety way regarding risk assessment is first avoid that risk altogether then if that is not possible minimise it eg PPE and distance observation. Re work it is the responsibility of the employer to do this legal H and S risk assessment. In public areas you rely on others observing the same rules so avoid them totally. Here in Spain it is mandatory to wear a face mask in public areas to mainly protect others. Luckily we can tell those without masks to be those who don't care so can be treated accordingly.
If the majority are not observing rules say in malls or the seaside then your choice should be not to be there to eliminate risk.
 
The 2nd wave is going to be as bad if not worse than the first.

If we’d held out just a 3-4 weeks longer with a stronger lockdown then we’d have most likely avoided it, at least to the degree it will hit now.

Unfortunately people thought ‘protecting the economy’ was more important. What they didn’t realise that holding out just that bit longer would protect the economy much more than rushing back into things would.

Younger people out drinking, people of all ages going round to houses. Social distancing isn’t an exact science. If you’re round someone’s house getting pissed and one of you has the virus it’s likely it would be passed on if you’re with each other all day, using the same bathroom etc, even if you’re so far apart.

The figures in a few months are going to be horrendous compared to the countries which did lockdown right, and they already look outrageously bad right now.

This government has so much to answer for.

There is no guarantee there is even going to be a second wave so god knows how you work that one out. I swear some people on here see it as a competition to see who can be as pessimistic and miserable as possible, keep your doom mongering to your self.
 
The 2nd wave is going to be as bad if not worse than the first.

If we’d held out just a 3-4 weeks longer with a stronger lockdown then we’d have most likely avoided it, at least to the degree it will hit now.

Unfortunately people thought ‘protecting the economy’ was more important. What they didn’t realise that holding out just that bit longer would protect the economy much more than rushing back into things would.

Younger people out drinking, people of all ages going round to houses. Social distancing isn’t an exact science. If you’re round someone’s house getting pissed and one of you has the virus it’s likely it would be passed on if you’re with each other all day, using the same bathroom etc, even if you’re so far apart.

The figures in a few months are going to be horrendous compared to the countries which did lockdown right, and they already look outrageously bad right now.

This government has so much to answer for.
I disagree mate. The mistake that was made, if any, was to not enforce a stricter lockdown for the 9/10 weeks that lockdown was in place. The “people” in the majority have just got bored of it, and Brits in particular are a lazy arrogant bunch that think they know best, so certainly the younger generation have just switched back to somewhere near their old routines.
 
The way this release of lockdown seems to be being handled you do have to wonder if there is something that we're not being told. To put it in footballing terminology, its like when you see a team appoint a manager and it just appears to be a totally random out of the blue appointment and as far as you can tell the person seems a completely bizarre decision (think when Leeds appointed that guy who's previous job had been at Forest Green or every time Steve McLaren gota new job). You actually think, well maybe they know something we don't and there's actually some genius thinking behind it. Sadly, there very rarely is.
 
I disagree mate. The mistake that was made, if any, was to not enforce a stricter lockdown for the 9/10 weeks that lockdown was in place. The “people” in the majority have just got bored of it, and Brits in particular are a lazy arrogant bunch that think they know best, so certainly the younger generation have just switched back to somewhere near their old routines.

Disagree with what? You’re already saying the lockdown should have been stricter. By saying that you must think there are consequences to that.
 
Put this in the other thread but fits this too.

Just to add to this, about 3 weeks ago when England came out of lockdown Scotland was at about 3-400 new cases / day equivalent for population to about 4000 new cases /day in the UK. Those current 50ish Scottish cases / day would be equivalent to 500 new UK cases / day.
Those extra 3 weeks of lockdown seem to have made a significant difference to coming out of lockdown at a lower base.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52009463
Hard to compare the stats though. Look at it this way. new cases circa 2k from around 100000 tests ( I am using rough figures) equates to 2%. Scotland showing 50 cases from around 2000 tests = 2.5%
 
There is no guarantee there is even going to be a second wave so god knows how you work that one out. I swear some people on here see it as a competition to see who can be as pessimistic and miserable as possible, keep your doom mongering to your self.

Less people to infect if the immunity holds up giving it less options to transfer too. More idea of methods of treatments that work than there was 3 months ago. More readily available testing and hopefully the kinks knocked out of the track and trace system.

Hope for the best but not be complacent about the worst.
 
Disagree with what? You’re already saying the lockdown should have been stricter. By saying that you must think there are consequences to that.
I’m saying I disagree that we’d have been capable of getting a further 3/4 weeks of lockdown out of the population.
 
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