George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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Another case of simplistic thinking about a complex issue. You should vote for Trump.
Nah, he’s an absolute embarrassment. So you blame 1) the system and 2) trump for him being a criminal then? What about actually blaming him for being a criminal? Which he was. So I’m not speaking out of turn before people start wetting their knickers.
 
Nah, he’s an absolute embarrassment. So you blame 1) the system and 2) trump for him being a criminal then? What about actually blaming him for being a criminal? Which he was. So I’m not speaking out of turn before people start wetting their knickers.
Ex-criminal..... a point you seem to want to ignore
 
Nah, he’s an absolute embarrassment. So you blame 1) the system and 2) trump for him being a criminal then? What about actually blaming him for being a criminal? Which he was. So I’m not speaking out of turn before people start wetting their knickers.
Seen a few people mention his previous conviction (for which he had served his time and was seemingly rehabilitated) but don’t think it’s really relevant here. It doesn’t in any way justify the treatment he was subjected to.
 
People seem to be under the impression that these protests are happening solely because of the murder of George Floyd.

People also seem to be under the impression that you can avoid being murdered by the police as long as you comply with the law.

I'm wondering if these people have ever heard of the likes of Botham Jean and Breonna Taylor.

This has been happening for fucking decades, George Floyd is just the latest high profile case because it was "fortunately" caught on camera and shared for the world to see.

The fact that some people are adamant on partly blaming Floyd because of an accusation of him being in possession of a fake $20 and insisting on calling him a criminal is absolutely pathetic.
 
Seen a few people mention his previous conviction (for which he had served his time and was seemingly rehabilitated) but don’t think it’s really relevant here. It doesn’t in any way justify the treatment he was subjected to.

Fake bank notes or he has just murdered someone, it matters not a jot. The police act professionally and proportionately and arrest him and the justice system deals with him.

Summary roadside executions which this was are not and never will be acceptable.

"Serve and protect"
 
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It has been repeated on CNN a few times

He was a violent criminal who had served seven yrs,it doesn't take much more to make up my mind and he had fake money

That is not the point though,he did not deserve to die at all let alone like that,that is not my point ,i feel as sick as any other right minded person ,
if this changes peoples lives for the better then it will not have been in vain,i am not comfortable with his angel image I suppose

As I said,i separate the murder from my uncomfortable feelings about the other things that I mentioned,i am not sure an armed robber should be getting a police escort to his funeral by cops,some of whom have probably roughed up black and ethnic for years

Something about the cops all acting that they are the only bad apples in the forces also doesn't sit right

Just musing in my current all over the place mood

George Floyd now has a legacy that goes far beyond his life. He is the current representation of police brutality to black people in America.

His funeral will contain thousands of people attending to support the message that black lives matter.

The police escort will be to ensure that it is a peaceful event.
 
I see we're entering the inevitable next phase that always happens in cases like this where people start dragging up previous criminal records and rolling out tired old bullshit like "Obviously I don't condone what the police did, but if he hadn't been committing a crime, none of this would have happened."

Let's be clear on this... If you say something like the above, you ARE condoning that behaviour - or at least seeking to justify/mitigate it in some way. Why else would you even mention it? It serves no other purpose than being an attempt to cloud judgement.

And for those of you banging on about counterfeit money as though he had a suitcase full of it in the boot of his car, every single one of us will have bought something with a forged banknote at least once in our lives. Every single one of us!
 
I know that our police are not even close to perfect, but I do feel like after watching a week of genuine police brutality towards all protesters and the media in the USA, people protesting here should be really thankful that we don't arm our police like the Americans with military equipment.

Ultimately people in the USA would dream about getting policed like we do...I don't know, maybe that's just my experience and others know better.

This is how protesters in the UK treat our unarmed police.

In my mind looking at this, they haven't been armed enough.

 
Fake bank notes or he has just murdered someone, it matters not a jot. The price act professionally and proportionately and arrest him and the justice system deals with him.

Summary roadside executions which this was are not and never will be acceptable.

"Serve and protect"

I totally agree and whilst the footage of George Floyd’s murder was abhorrent, an even bigger issue for me was the way the other cops just turned a blind eye to it.

It shows that there is a lack of training and a form of brotherhood/loyalty that allows systematic racism to flourish. If cops, who work to protect the community, are not willing to report or stand up to bad policing, then there is no hope for the standards to improve.

Charging all of the officers present at Floyd’s murder tells the police that they are accountable. Let’s see if cops continue to turn a blind eye to police brutality when Know that they can be held accountable.
 
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