COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Tim of the Oak]

Just looks a bit cheap (the punt, not the cost), bandwagon-esque, marketing ploy. And they're extortionately priced, which tells me this may not be a wholly philanthropic venture.

Should we make the the Bluemoaners Cup an annual award or is it winners stays on?

 

[Northernstorirs]

Jesus!

I’d read about it escaping by mistake with bats getting out of cages and attacking scientists in the lab, but not that it was genetically altered by humans.

China need to answer a lot of questions... they won’t though, of course... probably won’t even be asked any!

400,000 dead in 5 months, fuck known how many by the end of a year.

Unfortunately they won't and the UK would need a proper government to hold China to account. Instead the UK will probably carry on to award whopping infrastructure contracts to major Chinese firms.

 

[twosips]

New report suggests virus was subtly genetically modified and that it must have escaped from a lab.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...virus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Holy shit if true.

The report:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv..._general_method_of_action_for_infectivity.pdf

Oh great. Why does it feel like we're living through the beginning of WW3 currently.

 

[Ric]

New report suggests virus was subtly genetically modified and that it must have escaped from a lab.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...virus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Holy shit if true.

The report:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv..._general_method_of_action_for_infectivity.pdf

The Telegraph and The Mail seem keen to play this report up, for whatever reason. For the sake of balance, here’s The Independent’s take on it:

The researchers claim to have discovered clues suggesting key elements were “inserted” into the virus’s genetic sequence and may not have evolved naturally — a prospect contested by almost every other scientist studying the virus’s makeup.

The study had been rejected by various journals and rewritten several times to remove accusatory claims about China before it was published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery, according to The Telegraph. Initial co-author John Fredrik Moxnes, a chief scientific adviser to the Norwegian military, reportedly asked for his name to be removed.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Jesus!

I’d read about it escaping by mistake with bats getting out of cages and attacking scientists in the lab, but not that it was genetically altered by humans.

China need to answer a lot of questions... they won’t though, of course... probably won’t even be asked any!

400,000 dead in 5 months, fuck known how many by the end of a year.

Having read the report and the comments on it in the Telegraph article, any changes to an original bat coronavirus are very subtle indeed and why the tone of the initial report led to so many rejecting it out of hand. The report has subsequently been reworked to concentrate on the virus spike binding mechanisms and the question it poses is now "How did the virus acquire such a perfect human binding mechanism naturally?" Which more scientists are prepared to accept.

 

[grunge]

New report suggests virus was subtly genetically modified and that it must have escaped from a lab.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...virus-began-accident-disease-escaped-chinese/

Holy shit if true.

The report:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/serv..._general_method_of_action_for_infectivity.pdf

Hmm, thing is, original version of the virus that caused the outbreak didn't have the best "spikes", the later mutated strain did.

Analysis may have changed but that was the consensus when they discovered the 2 strains a few months back.

original video.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

So it seems the main ward at Tameside Hospital dealing with COVID-19 is filling up again :(

I hope its not the same at other hospitals.

 

[Eds]

I think offering face masks is overdue mate

They must have seen my post from Tuesday!!

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Telegraph and The Mail seem keen to play this report up, for whatever reason. For the sake of balance, here’s The Independent’s take on it:

Nobody wants to be accused of starting WW4 (even if a very cold one like WW3) and China has a track record of bullying smaller countries into submission. Hence why certain people didn't want to be associated with the report.
The questions that China has to answer are now; however, a lot clearer. No matter how the Independent likes to cut it.
Chinese scientists themselves have ruled out animal transmission at the wet market (probably due to censors not understanding scientific papers).
The Chinese also spent a month hiding the virus from the outside world and WHO cooperation is now known not to be open and honest as WHO initially portrayed. Why?
This report certainly adds fuel to the fire.

 

[Eds]

So it seems the main ward at Tameside Hospital dealing with COVID-19 is filling up again :(

I hope its not the same at other hospitals.

Admission rates are going down across the country according to stat although I wonder if increased admissions in Tameside has anything to do with reports that people have been breaking lockdown by going to Werneth Low. That said Tameside does have the second lowest infection rate per head in Greater Manchester so maybe it's a blip